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30 Nov 2019 13:09 #377194 by ketchim
NBA teams played 80 games each beginning in 1961-62.
The league added a game in 1966-67, bringing the total to 81
then ultimately settled on 82 games for the 1967-68 season

when the San Diego Rockets and Seattle SuperSonics joined the league.

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30 Nov 2019 13:11 - 30 Nov 2019 13:12 #377195 by ketchim
www.nytimes.com/2011/10/12/sports/basket...src=tp&smid=fb-share

Nearly every sports season is a physical and emotional grind — a marathon for players and fans.

The 30 N.B.A. teams each play 82 games from mid-fall through early spring
— and 16 of them make the playoffs, leaching some significance out of the regular season.

Why not play fewer games?
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30 Nov 2019 13:13 #377196 by ketchim
Shortening the season would certainly have an effect on N.B.A. economics.

Arenas accustomed to booking 41 games a year would be hurt.

Commissioner David Stern might have to take a prorated pay cut :woohoo:

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30 Nov 2019 19:45 #377203 by mapoui
I am talking about the NBA as it is..dat pays them guys serious millions. and for dat they all agree to the grind. deh all get compensated as best as possible for whatever that grind does to them..they all agree to it so far

now if Kahwii has a case against the grind that is the issue then..what is his case?

yuh see if you have a critique of the league then come out with it and fight for what you want by presenting your case to the league..players, clubs administration etc...to the public

that is not what Leonard doing. he forcing relief fuh he alone..and therefore hes is putting unrelenting pressure on those players who cant do the same as he. they have to share the load Kahwii is shedding by missing games. Kahwii is shedding the load unto his fellow team players...harming them.

that is why it will soon start to undermine the team stability..ensure that there will be issues that will make he team lose

I am pissed at Kahwii. I am pissed at Doc Rivers for not seeing what he agreed to with Kahwii..its full consequences. if Kahwii brings disunity and failure to the Clips..the Clips will be forced to get rid of him. and from then on I figure he will be drummed out of the league

what Kahwii has brought up is a case for the reduction of the grind..but Kahwii does not have the case prepared..is looking only for himself.but it is happening right in that mix

( ohjeez. I am losing it..why have I used so many words to describe this simple issue ..making it complex)

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01 Dec 2019 11:58 #377208 by ketchim
Exactly : all Doc Rivers doing is what Raptors created :

Kawhi Leonard plays a maximum of 60 outta that 82 ~

Simple not complex at all, at all ;)

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01 Dec 2019 13:05 - 01 Dec 2019 13:09 #377211 by mapoui
I had a few points to make but I was all over the place..cud not organize myself

look here:
12-15 on the roster..all man sign for 82 games.
if Leonard plays 60 games..approximate how long would each of those games take multiply by minutes divide by the number
of the rest of the players and add
simply 22 games are 22 hours by 60 minutes. but each game takes a lot more than 1 hour to play. you have to add all of that to the rest of the players..and more to those players who are likely to be on the court more than others

my argument that if it is important for Leonard to manage his load what about the others?

and if that is the case for the others too he is making it worse for them by shedding his load unto them. it is not only that Leonard manage his load..the minutes must be played..and by the rest of the team. they cant bring in mercenaries to play those minutes then they take off..

Leonard is paid more than the rest.... and he plays less. he is not shouldering his load

that I argue is going to create a problem soon enough...especially if as against the Spurs the Clippers lost and there was a clear fact on the court of Leonard not sharp at all..out of sync with the other players and bricking his shots most of the time
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01 Dec 2019 13:16 #377212 by mapoui
Leonard and load management raises the question of the 82 game grind of the NBA. and if the teams grant him his load management wishes, they admit he is right and opens up that question for the rest of the players as well. now that the precedent has been set how will they deal with players asking for the same consideration?

they can deny no such player request from now on. all they cud have done was to pro rate salary: i.e make a deal with Leonard on his base pay of a full contract...work out a game rate based on that and charge him for every game he does not play. now that would clear the whole situation up. players can get their load management but the team would not pay for it

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01 Dec 2019 13:23 #377213 by mapoui
that still leaves the question of the grind of 82 games: who is responsible for that...is that an owner rip off exhausting the players in the process?

or is that a fact of the basketball economy and how it has developed over the years...that it ensures all make their money including the players and their vast millions?

then again the players are required to play a maximum up to 6 hours on the court per week 4 times a month..6months per year.

how is that exhausting..or how exhausting is that.. for athletes who do only that?

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01 Dec 2019 13:45 - 02 Dec 2019 17:14 #377214 by mapoui
because what Leonard has managed to do...essentially blackmailing teams who want to win championships, into giving him unfair advantage over the rest of the players in the league..he is calling the entire games structure of the NBA into question - featuring it as 'a grind that is using up the players for the greater profit of the NBA!'

it looks like Leonard is revolutionary but he is no such thing. he is just using the NBA because they have allowed him to do it..because the teams in question want to win. but in doing so they may have greased a slippery slope for themselves.

ok Leonard earns 32 million, 740 thousand usd per annum
LeBron, Lowery and Steph Curry make more

divide by 82 and Leonard by rights should lose about 5.5 million in salary if he is to get his load management. but they give him his whole salary and let him sit. so let me see what they do when others ask for the same thing :dry:
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01 Dec 2019 13:54 - 02 Dec 2019 17:12 #377215 by mapoui
that is all I am asking man! I see balance in the NBA. I see even fly by night players at the lowest end of rosters in the NBA..whom they call in to make up a roster here and there... walk away with a few millions.

some of them just disappear never to be heard from again. I see a few do that for a few years running and make in total up to 15 - 20 millions. that's enough to set them up for life. I just looking to win a lottery for hundreds of thousands not millions...I know that wud set me up well enough in life

when I look at the NBA I see a structure that is all in balance that gives players money they could never dream off any other way. I see the NBA calling on them for maximum physical skill that can keep that structure going..and it is an effort that 2 or three games a week for 6 months should do them no harm.

it is longer for the teams that go on into play offs and the championship round. they can go 8- 8 and a half months in the year.

yet I see balance everywhere in the NBA structure..all over it. and players do not die from exhaustion playing basketball..not even a hint of any such thing among those who played the game for years. it is not like football where players actually die from playing that game
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