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2nd Test: West Indies v Australia at Kingston

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08 Jun 2015 11:06 #258918 by ketchim

Given de opportunity ?? Yes , Cappo  ::LOL::

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08 Jun 2015 11:19 #258923 by mapoui
it was easy that race.  I was just making things to hard by looking to beat the fave

the horse I was looking towards was Materiality but he is a hard luck horse.  he had a bd start in the Derby and here he was hung out to dry in the 8 hole.

from the 5 hole the fave would grab the lead and the rail advantage. #8 would have to come 3 or 4 or 5 wide and be burned out. and so said so done. by the turn for home #8 made his move 3 wide,  had nothing left and faded right out.  that is what clarified in mind before I left home.  and the next horse would be Horse for course #6. but just in case I paired him up for second with made from Lucky who ran right out of the race.

so the bet was 5 with 63, with 6317 with  31782 for the super. 

late I saw #7 in the nick of time due to what a commentator at Belmont said about his finish in the Derby.  so I went back and looked at the derby and sure enough Keen Ice was running a very good derby but was blocked and finished seventh.  he would run a good Belmont and he had the pedigree for the distance

so I chucked it all in..keyed the fave, with the 63 etc and went out the door..came back home to find my ticket had won..half of 109.50  54.75 half of 570-285.00 for a total of 339.50 minus costs and I am just a bit less than 300 in the black.

lunch ::LOL:: ::LOL:: ::LOL::

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08 Jun 2015 11:25 #258924 by mapoui
the fave AP is a speed horse..one of the best ever..and so is Materiality.  inside and outside..if the inside horse is very good he should hang the outside speed out to dry. and Belmont does not help outside speed

once AP drew well inside of Materiality and would make the rail easily, the race was over.  so that was Materality's bad luck this race..to draw the 8 hole

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08 Jun 2015 11:41 #258927 by The Captain
man dats chump change


I thought you had like 300K locked up

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08 Jun 2015 12:14 - 08 Jun 2015 12:48 #258936 by mapoui


thats good enuff for me.  I don't play horses to make money to live, for great profits...but for recreation to keep my mind fit.  if I did I would be involved with it...not posting away my time here on the forum.  horse racing requires  lot of focus and constant attention.

I am not able to do that.  there are too many things I like to do with my time.  and I don't want to become jaded.  and now after the triple crown, I will prolly lose focus until the Breeders cup in October. 

with my limited intermittent focus I am able to walk back to the races, look at a race/races and absorb all the info.. then let it jell and it works out almost every time  before the face, when whats going to happen comes clear in my mind.

almost every time I look fully at a race it works out that way.  I know the riders, the horses, pedigrees, distances, the trainers, form, post positions, weather, the tracks and their formations..tons of information. then it just jells and I know..then bet and win.

I am ok in life captain.  I don't need to upset my way  by putting big money on horses.  the way I do it now is fine..50-60 dollars on a race.. win.. that's good.  I win most of the time and so I am into their money..I don't use mine to bet but theirs.  I would have to lose seriously for that to happen

then again horse racing is a game in which the casa always wins.  the casa..the house.. taxes that game mercilessly. so if you don't win when you bet there is little chance of getting it back. the casa always wins..and if you don't you will lose without a chance of getting it back.  the bigger the betting the worse you lose

if I put real money out there it will first put too much pressure on my mind.  I cant deal with that anymore.  pressre wastes my energy and puts me behnd the 8-ball this last rounds here.  I have a sugar problem that pressure aggravates, helps me mightily to make dumb decisions.

I am not like Floyd Mayweather for who a million dollar bets is nothing.  Floyd just pulled in half a billion dollars for just one fight.

look here!  I know betting and I can assure you that Mayweather pays people to handicap events for him so when he bets it is based on expert advice.  there is no way Mayweather casts those bets without such advice. He may know enough about the events because he is smart and most likely has some knowledge on his own that allows him to make informed decisions on what the experts tell him.  but he is not going forward without such advice when so much money is involved. no one can bet otherwise and soovive

I put my money on different bets captain..safer bets and use horse racing.  I bet on horses for what it can give me..fun, some winnings, keep my mind active etc.  thoroughbred racing is a very involved sport. intricate, involving many disciplines..mathematics, biology-genetics, general business practices, sociology. no one can just go to the track and win consistently.  the most challenging factor is the casa, the house and the taxes they take out of the game.  that is the man who really must be beaten if one is to win consistently.

I used to bet in Trinidad and win all the time.  when I came to Canada I was too struggling and busy and broke to go..I went ultimately but  soon after I started my family so I stopped and never went back until my children were grown up and on their own.  now its too late to beat the tract consistently in the way you suggest captain.

like if I met some young people who wanted to do that, were smart enough to begin with... then I could the devote time to develop a project to do so..to beat horse racing. I would have purpose and people to whom I could leave a legacy, an approach.  but now I would have to devote my whole life to horse racing to defeat it if I were to put real money on bets.  I don't want to devote my life to horse racing

horse racing is no easy game.  its real hard.  Look here! I picked winners in races that experts like Andrew Beyer, who has devoted a life time to the 'sport' picked wrong...that is if he actually told us the truth..that what he said he picked what what he actually picked.  experts usually guide the public wrong.  they tell you one thing and go bet the real winner secretly.

but if a man who has spent 60 years in racing can be wrong..especially man like Beyer who is a high IQ, Harvard man from an upper middle class family you see how tuff the game is.

I have it right man.  I am happy
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08 Jun 2015 12:25 #258938 by ketchim

Whaaattt ?? You not coming to woodbine for the 156th Queens Plate  :-\

www.woodbineentertainment.com/Queensplat...es/EventDetails.aspx

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08 Jun 2015 12:29 #258939 by The Captain
plate full

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08 Jun 2015 12:35 #258944 by mapoui

I dont know.  I will see! :D :D :D

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09 Jun 2015 13:39 #259075 by anandgb

Make a deal with the devil? Nope, not a blade of grass or an ounce of oil.

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09 Jun 2015 13:53 #259082 by mapoui

well is allyuh patrimony and inheritance to pass on.  is only my business as west indian.  but allyuh pay allyuh money and take allyuh chances.  I have no say
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