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Re: Dukes vs.Kookaburra

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26 Apr 2015 15:36 - 25 Jun 2019 17:04 #253723 by ketchim
It is evident that our Bowlers cannot OUT the Opposition !

So lets change Ball !  8)
Last edit: 25 Jun 2019 17:04 by ketchim.

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26 Apr 2015 15:39 #253724 by ketchim
Opiss had introduced the English DUKE.

Should we start using the 4 piece KOOKABURRA ???

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26 Apr 2015 15:57 #253725 by ketchim
http://www.theage.com.au/sport/cricket/dukes-balls-for-ashes-practice-20121023-283gw.html

The Dukes cricket ball behaves differently from the Kookaburra !!

The seams on Dukes are hand-stitched, and they tend to swing for longer than Kookaburra balls,

though movement is heavily influenced by pitch and weather conditions  ;)

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26 Apr 2015 16:14 #253728 by chairman
use duke

Always tell someone how you feel because opportunities are lost in the blink of an eye but regret can last a lifetime.
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26 Apr 2015 16:17 #253730 by ketchim

use duke


BUT ...it not working for us : FIX things that NOT working :

I refuse to believe that Gabriel, a faster bowler than Jimmeh :

CANNOT get the SAME result ...

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26 Apr 2015 16:25 #253733 by Rev Al

It is evident that our Bowlers cannot OUT the Opposition !


* Bishoo took 4 wickets and scored 30 and 15* and some of the clowns over at CC want to drop him.

* In the meantime Holder and Roach didn't take a single wicket but tey are set for life.

* Having said that---the WI no longer has quality quicks----they'll remain ranked #7/8 for years to come.

Rev

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26 Apr 2015 17:53 #253736 by Calypso

BUT ...it not working for us : FIX things that NOT working :

I refuse to believe that Gabriel, a faster bowler than Jimmeh :

CANNOT get the SAME result ...


The famous West Indian fast bowlers of the 1980s propelled Dukes balls, often at the batsman’s head, but when Roger Harper was the West Indies coach he switched to Kookaburras so they would not be unfamiliar when his team toured Australia and South Africa.

The switch back to Dukes, to try to revive West Indian fast bowling, was made four years ago. But the seams were found to split on surfaces which were often rolled and hard-baked mud. So a ball was made specifically for West Indian usage, using seams of stronger thread and more lacquer, which costs WICB £55 a time.

The type of ball being used in this series is the British Cricket Balls Grade 1 County (Dukes).  Equipped with this missile, James Anderson set up and cleaned up Kraigg Brathwaite !!!

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26 Apr 2015 18:04 #253737 by Calypso

Opiss had introduced the English DUKE.


Re-introduced  ;) 

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26 Apr 2015 18:55 #253739 by ketchim

Equipped with this missile, James Anderson set up and cleaned up Kraigg Brathwaite !!!


Yeah I saw it  ;)
                                           

51/2oz  Red

    •The very best English alum tanned leather

    •Precision Cortex centre

    •Customised to suit region of use

    •As used for First Class / International cricket in England & West Indies

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30 Apr 2015 09:22 #254175 by ketchim


The type of ball being used in this series is the British Cricket Balls Grade 1 County (Dukes).
Equipped with this missile, James Anderson set up and cleaned up Kraigg Brathwaite !!!


Now ViV talking about the Pitches but NOT the Ball ....**sigh**

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30 Apr 2015 10:32 #254192 by Calypso

Now ViV talking about the Pitches but NOT the Ball ....**sigh**


Would be interesting to know just how well WI bowlers performed overall with the 'Burra' Harper days and after .......... as opposed to previous 'Dukes' Victory Days... but those players were doing County Cricket with a Dukes ball in England and Windies !!!

Numbers guys Rev and Dillinger .... and TriniDaddy ??? 

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30 Apr 2015 10:50 #254195 by Calypso

......and have Curtly work with them !


OR dem work with Curtly !!! :o

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01 May 2015 13:02 #254358 by Googley
didn't i read somewhere that WICB buying the cheaper quality balls? 

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01 May 2015 23:15 - 02 May 2015 03:04 #254408 by dillinger10

Would be interesting to know just how well WI bowlers performed overall with the 'Burra' Harper days and after .......... as opposed to previous 'Dukes' Victory Days... but those players were doing County Cricket with a Dukes ball in England and Windies !!!

Numbers guys Rev and Dillinger .... and TriniDaddy ??? 


During the Harper era, West Indies bowling average was 33.00.  From 2003 to 2010, the era in which I believe the West Indies still used the kookaburra (please correct me if I am wrong on this), their bowling average was 43.00. From 2011 until now, they averaged 34.42.

From 1980-1989, bowling average : 25.96
From 1990-1999, bowling average: 29.37

I was unable to find strike rates in order to compare them but will keep digging and see if I can come up with anything more.
Last edit: 02 May 2015 03:04 by dillinger10.

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02 May 2015 10:22 #254431 by ketchim
Excellent dillinger10 , this may help !

Methink Roger was between 2000 - 2003 :then went to coach Kenya..

Thanks for a continued dig  8)

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