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**** Mickey Arthur to be Windies new Coach ??? ****

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20 Aug 2014 09:59 #208358 by Calypso

ROTFL .....  :D :D

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20 Aug 2014 10:07 #208361 by Mail
I know what the published team is Ketchim but do you have any thoughts/ preferences for an alternative or is this structure just right?

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20 Aug 2014 10:40 #208371 by ketchim
1.Carl Hooper – Head Coach , IF we must hav one 

2.Roger Harper – Fielding and Batting Consultant

3.Sir Curtly Ambrose – Bowling Consultant

Team Manager can be a Clerk (female to book airways, hotel rooms et cetera )

already bloated at Factory road ..

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20 Aug 2014 10:54 #208373 by Calypso

Why female ? ..... I hope it's because you think a female would pay more attention to detail and be more organized in this area  8)

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20 Aug 2014 10:56 #208374 by ketchim
Exactly ....they just in short skirts strutting around Factory Road  ::LOL::

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20 Aug 2014 11:29 #208384 by mapoui

how much care and planning do allyuh think went into the creation of this staff of people?

has the same effort been put into the development of west indies cricket from the ground up ::confused::

allyuh see how they build up..building up the bureaucracy but is the same planning and care being put into the cricket allover the region comprehensively so they can can be fed and grow ::confused::

no!  so are #8 in the world all the way from #1..over a period of time that coincides with the change from the old white administrative class, and the accession of the black/brown elites to the wicb and the start of the building of this jackass and parasitic entity called the wicb, minus the C from the old board which was for control..as if to indicate that an age of control was over and we had passed into a new democracy in cricket.

but that was a sleight of hand and an hypocrisy.  far from over, a new age of control had indeed begun sly and hidden..no C anymore but even greater control had begun

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21 Aug 2014 08:32 #208565 by ketchim
If Pybus does put Arthur's name forward, it would be a complete contradiction of his comments

contained in his report to the WICB in March.

"The introduction of coaches from other cricket cultures ( Australians Bennett King and John Dyson

were WI head coaches between 2004 and 2010)

and players having single rooms on tour :

brought about changes in the team culture that manifested in a breaking down

of the natural handing on of Caribbean cricket wisdom, senior player to junior player,"

"Informal coaching by elite cricketers was replaced by formal coaching from an alien culture

with a different values system…

Confusion over the natural Caribbean way of playing and coaching emerged."

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21 Aug 2014 08:52 #208572 by mapoui
that of course is not rocket science.  they knew what they were doing!

but it does not even matter if they knew of not. they are different and all the power in the situation is concentrated in their hands.

that is the major insane term in the situation..the HC has all the power and he is culturally opposite or different so his mere presence effs up the situation

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21 Aug 2014 10:21 #208603 by mapoui
if pie bus bring mikkie artah as coach i gorne.  I don' finish wit' wes' indies cricket

but dat is exactly wat I expect to happen'..dat the nex' coach is artah.  so I ready to move on

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21 Aug 2014 11:07 #208611 by Mail
MAPPIPPEE,

Richard has been instrumental is enabling some major changes 'we' were all asking for.

1.  Sacking Sammy
2.  Sacking Ottis
3.  Sacking Butts

All done so at least recognise the good things he has done in a relatively short period of time give due process must be followed in personnel matters to which he had no input.

Like you if he gets Arthur in, I too would not be happy for the simple reason of how Arthur affected Australia.

Maybe there is no need for a head coach but I do not think we will see that model changed now.

I cannot think of any of any West Indian bar Simmons, David Williams and I think Logie with any First Class Coaching experience and further not sure if any has oursued a formal Coaching badge.

I recall Gareth Southgate, football, were barred from Coaching for some time as he did not have any Coaching qualifications although he had played for England. Also I would be very surprised if any of the County Coaches are not qualief to at least L3.

The Coaching L3 badge does not guarantee a good Coach, as was the case with Ottis, but a benchmark has to be set and contained within the course are some very useful resources.

Lehmann as Head Coach for Australia has made the world of difference but is that Coaching or motivational talk.

A good team Manager may well be able to do that?

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