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1st Test: Australia v West Indies at Hobart

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12 Dec 2015 20:13 #283328 by Mail
For the second test I would go for this team and in this batting order!

1.  Brathers
2.  Chandrika
3.  Bravo
4.  Holder
5.  Hope
6.  Blacky
7.  Dowrich/ Ramdin
8.  Bishoo
9.  Carlitos
10. Roach
11. Taylor

You might as well give the youngsters exposure and would not be surprised if Ramo is dropped and his Test career comes to an end....and perhaps his international career.

Holder is the new Sammy with a bit more gumption but his bowling, for me, has not advanced although he is quite economical. His bowling can develop since the selectors have shown faith in him so he is in for the long haul. His batting is better than good so allow him the opportunity to build an innings.

Samuels should retire with immediate effect and should be dropped although I doubt he will be as he is a senior head that did not contribute to or showed any intention to assist his skipper and lift the team!

Gabe is injured so Brathers II comes in and he is handy with the willow as well!

Ramdin is still the best gloveman but him batting at 6 is a non sense. either he is dropped and allow Dowrich to develop or bat him lower.

This way it is still 3-0, and Starc is not even playing, but you are evolving.

Guys to look out for are Chandrika, Blacky and Bishoo. The latter can and will win matches, an excellent fielder and good batsman with the potential to be much better.

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12 Dec 2015 21:16 #283332 by Calypso
The media here are having a field day with this Windies team ............

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12 Dec 2015 21:23 #283333 by Calypso
WEST Indies skipper Jason Holder just can’t take a trick, finding himself in the ICC’s firing line over his side’s slow over rate during their dismal first Test loss in Hobart.

Holder has been fined 60 per cent of his match fee by the ICC, and faces a suspension should the Windies reoffend within the next 12 months.

The West Indies were ruled to be three overs short of their minimum overs target as Adam Voges and Shaun Marsh battered their pop gun attack from pillar to post, with one over from speedster Shannon Gabriel on day one taking six minutes to complete.

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13 Dec 2015 06:15 #283336 by mapoui
things I cant stand....the whole structure of draconian punitive rules that affect players in cricket..indeed in any sport... these days

that is a consequence of the rise of controlling bureaucracies bent on player control to ensure their power is not challenged.

the rise of the Head Coach can also bee seen in these terms.  the HC is not the captain who has a traditional role that does not depend on the administration.  the captain is the best man and his place is rooted in such recognition and his own record.

no one could deny Viv Richards for example.  they did not have to like him and they did not..the then wicbc.  they prevaricated but in the end they had to appoint him. Lloyd before him, Sobers and Worrell.  these players could not be denied and their authority flowed from their own personal qualities and the fans who adored them..not the administration.

now the captain has been neutered and replaced by the HC who is a creature of administration and entirely dependent on the administration.  and it is a job that is tenuous and totally insecure..the more so at least in theory the better for the admins in cricket.  such an insecure position means total dependency on the administration easily controlled personnel.  so all the captains power has been transferred to an official who is in a game of musical chairs job-wise and totally controlled.  and the great captains are few and far between now.

all the cricket power is now in the admin..using the ridiculous and unnecessary Head Coach to help them steal the game from the people  ::LOL:: ::LOL:: ::LOL::

then the punitive expansion:  match referees, third empire, a deliberate expansion of racism which can be seen as part of the maintainence of a punitive structure that keeps everyone divided and on the edge..with the black teams of course on he lower end of the spectrum just as it is  in general society.  to develop and keep control they must keep racism going with the requisite co-optation globally of black traitors like Skameron who would sell whoever apparently for whatever means he has in mind

but here is this draconian measure..slow-over rate..60% of match fee and ban out the next time!  that is insane.  it is a game for christ sakes that people pay to see to enjoy, not the machine like production of quantity deemed essential by a stinking parasitic global cricket bureau.

that kind of penalty suggests a slow over rate is equivalent to murder in general life off the field..or on it.. he player has a career to develop and it is threatened by this truly harsh ICC law for play on the field ::confused::  how in the hell does that make sense.  IT IS A GAME AFTER ALL!

the only way the whole structure of crime and penalty in cricket makes sense is as a means of player control, the demeaning and reduction of individual and collective player power potential to make the power of the bureau secure.  it is a power grab..the new and growing structural penalty and punishment of players.

please note there is no relative and equal structural penalty/punishment for the administrators of cricket.  they have regulated the players into ineffectiveness while they have placed no restrictions on themselves..those who man the bureaus.

instead of developing democracy the dictatorship worsens

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14 Dec 2015 19:41 #283720 by chairman
i agree

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