Before I Leave God, Ketchim and Me

Religion is a god dam lie..all religions the worst of which are the 2 biggest of them all: Christianity including Judaism, and Islam. they are both supposedly Abrahamic religions and the Muslims do not piss on the Christian book the Bible, but they have their Koran. what and where are the origins of both books..Koran and Bible?

AFRICA THAT'S WHERE...EGYPT

the Africans had the ages and ages and ages and ages old lived experience and they wrote it down. both Arabs and Caucasian went into Africa as conquerors and took freely and totally of Africa and called it theirs

they took African philosophy, ideology, ethics and moral ..African cosmology as a whole and called it theirs. then the told Africans you never did anything, beat them down for centuries to this day. but all they are have been taken from Africa, stolen..Greeks, Italians, Turks, Iran..then England and the USA

France, Spain and Portugal and most of Italy were always African and benefited from the African presence in their nations

but without the African base they stole from Africa, including Africans themselves they would be nowhere today.

AFRICA IS THE BASE AND ROCK OF HUMANITY PERIOD..THE ROOT, DEEP IN THE SOIL OF THE EARTH ON WHICH EVERYTHING STANDS.

if humanity is in trouble, at the point of Extinction it is not Africans who brought us to this state.

but Abraham never lived, nor Sampson, Solomon and David, nor Moses nor Jesus the Christ. all of this are recent Jewish/Khazar creations. none of it is true..noe bible is true..new or old testament. and it is the same with the Koran.

ask them all where they got their holy books from and to please work with you to get back to their roots. they would never do it for that would be to expose the African root at the base of things.

by the time or white emergence into history Africans had lived on Planet Earth for an incredible period of time and done a tremendous amount of development. it is only Africans who had the lived experience to have come to know life to be able to write all those things down as they are written down and still available today if you would be allowed to see then artifacts

they have been taken from Africa and are held all over the place..in Europe and the States under european names

all these truths will destroy organized religions..all of them, in time..expose them for the fakes they are

the way the religions are built are catered to belief. they are illogical and insist on belief.

that is the only way to have religion colonize the human mind..to make mystery, fantasy, ill logic and to foster debate about ill logic on and on and on on the ill logic as the doctrine that surrounds the ill logic entraps the mind

you make powerful organizations with the blessings and authority of the state, make the people see that it is good, reward those who join up, put it into the schools and after time it becomes accepted

so the human mind becomes colonized by the ill logic and silly mysteries under which there are no secrets that free anyone..free from what, free of what?

but truth of life kills religion like the sunlight of the day kills Dracula. logic eliminates ill logic...in which case religion does not in time, have a snowballs chance in hell

mapoui post=372895 Wrote:as I said and insist on: those results are generalized and do not tell any kind or story or reality. from own experience I see a different figuration or religious beliefs.

Numbers don't Lie.
your personal belief is at odds with 5 billion people.

ketchim post=372907 Wrote:

mapoui post=372895 Wrote:as I said and insist on: those results are generalized and do not tell any kind or story or reality. from own experience I see a different figuration or religious beliefs.

Numbers don't Lie.
your personal belief is at odds with 5 billion people.

more proof! look at your behavior here. you know those numbers and the source of those numbers are very, very untrustworthy... but you chose to play propaganda games with me. there isn't a hint on your part that those numbers require clarification and the source needs to be supported big time

you have sought no other sources, looked for nothing to buttress he Economist, looked for nothing to verify the Bleuris woman, the author of the article in the Economist link you posted up.

all you do is to hold onto those one-off numbers, white knuckle, come at me with guerilla shots and take off

you behave at the end of the day like a religious mafioso with something off-color to protect
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"numbers dont lie!" they lie all the god dam time as you well know..a man of numbers yourself

So give me some link to buttress your claim.
I say religion is alive and well and give you a link from a credible source

You have not rebutted with any Link to show research that ascertain the opposite
just what you feel is so
SO you living in a world of non evidence ...
This don't qualify :whistle: 15 out of 7.7 BILLION

mapoui post=372895 Wrote:I ask about 15 people already about religion and how they feel..outside my window, at the park doing my exercises.15...not one god dam positive answer. and none go to church..old and young

ketchim post=372909 Wrote:So give me some link to buttress your claim.
I say religion is alive and well and give you a link from a credible source

You have not rebutted with any Link to show research that ascertain the opposite
just what you feel is so
SO you living in a world of non evidence ...
This don't qualify :whistle: 15 out of 7.7 BILLION

mapoui post=372895 Wrote:I ask about 15 people already about religion and how they feel..outside my window, at the park doing my exercises.15...not one god dam positive answer. and none go to church..old and young

I gave you an argument that is backed by popular information that needs no buttressing.

read my argument again and see for yourself. in it I did not even bother much with your claims establishing that " if it is indeed as you say according to the Economist, then in time truth that we already know, that is popular and growing in exposure will overwhelm religious illogicality"

that is already happening..where people look at the old and new testament and easily proven where little in them coincide with proven historical reality.

for instance the Khazars Jews and the Jewish people as a nation...how could they have built the pyramids as slaves or any dam thing, like ordinary workers... when they had been a totally insignificant minority numbering in the few thousands around that time..vanishingly small?

now history has proven by the discovery of ancient grave sites around the pyramids that there were no Jews there..ever. that Africans built the pyramids period and they were free labor not slaves

now what has that done..killed a whole significant section of the Bibles..the Exodus, Jewish Slavery, Moses and his Myth etc. it never happened

the current Caucasian Jews, called the Khazars who constitute up to 95% of all Jewry in the world, are converts not real Jews of about 1100 years or so. they had never been anywhere near Palestine until they began to filter into that area and take it over, pre and post second world war in the last century.

the Jews don't know the so-called Holy Land, had no part in the stories that feature them in the Bible. they are all fake stories that these Jews growing powerful by around 500 years ago, then wrote and imposed on the world as holy Bibles.

where did the Jews get those stories from, emanating as they did out of Ukraine? they got them from and in Egypt, Africa, plagiarized them, turned them into Jewish stories, false stories. all the religions did the same. all the white intellects, from Greece, Rome, or the Iranians/Persia, or France, Spain, Portugal and England..indeed all of Europe..did the very same thing..go tho Africa/Egypt in particular, steal the African peoples achievements and took them for their own, turned around and pissed on Africa/Africans, degraded them into never having achieved anything of significance historically, the only humans who never did or achieved anything
all the white figures now held up to us, to the world, as great and progenitors and fathers of the sciences both hard and soft, achievers of great and formative intellectual feats and discoveries are anything but. they are intellectual thieves and plagiarists..as are the religions. that is evidence for the mafioso the religions are..ALL OF THEM... INCLUDING ISLAM!

this is the truth..the truth that will slay all religions dragons in time

the Bible then is a total fake, then is a compendium of calculated lies that have been swallowed whole by the world.. made even stronger given that the Jews targeted the communications media including book publishing for monopolization, a monopoly that gave their 'Jewish stories' full coverage...and by repetition and corruption with the christian churches got them in as part of the accepted religious propaganda taught forced fed to everyone

that history is available now everywhere. its even on You Tube by many Black scholars..and white ones too..so many now they are coming out of the woodwork. its only a matter of time before these truths become the basis of history, and all religion done, gutted by truth..

ultimately religion must operate on the truth of the collective human experience from from as far back into time as we ascertain, about life as it pertains to what may be indeed god..or lead to whatever god is...like what I have been talking about relative to the fact that human thought is not inside the physical brain, but outside of it

what that may mean is that your brain may survive physical death but what happens to it when the body dies?

with that we are actually getting somewhere factual with this god business. and it has absolutely nothing to do with the whole vast, massive collection of bullshit that is collective religion including Christianity and Islam, Hinduism... with its regular eruptions of bearded Sikhs flowing out of Hindu temples in massive sword fights..Judaism with its total corruption of the human species and its savage and on-going genocides in the world through control of its killing agents.. first the British empire and now the American empire

you want more proof..I will give you..soon!

all of that is why I establish that religion does not have a god dam leg to stand on..none! and soon enough it will collapse into its own shadow. and that time will be sooner than you think because those Economist figures cannot be real..they are fake too... and certainly require analysis if they have come out of a real credible survey..to ferret out the real story behind those numbers

I am not saying that there is no god..period. I would be a fool to claim that. I simply do not know! I claim that there are no gods of the religions. all 'existing' gods are fake, nonsense, calculated fake entities that require belief not reason and facts, the products of competing criminal religious mafias in the world.

but I can look around me and see that humans are are just weak animals unable to create what we are a part of..create ourselves. humans are far from the most physically powerful of life forms on Earth. and in nature natural forces are way beyond us. there must be something to all of it way beyond humanity. but why in the hell must we create phantasm about IT and insist on belief, not reason in dealing with such Phantasm?

we do not even know how things began, how we began, if there are ends and beginnings. we do not see the start or end of anything really if we consider existential processes. death for example! we fear death and describe that process in disgusting terms. but what happens to the body when we die? we see at the very least chemical transformation really that goes on and on and on. that being the case what did humanity come out of and where did that begin. if we see no end in death why was there even a start to life..or more accurately, what transformed into life and how?

when I observe these physical facts what behooves me to take the story of Adam and Eve seriously. that at best must be some allegorical lesson couched for us to figure out from the legit basic story. it is obvious the popular story of Adm and Eve that has come to us all is a tendentious plagiarized fake, from which any original lesson for humanity has long been lost..and now that story is only an example of European conquest and transfer of misunderstood lessons of the past..misunderstood by europeans..or ancient truth deliberately transcribed as a particular lie for intended effect

the Biblical story of Genesis then is a lie as clear as day..nonsense really. we do not know where we came from, how we were 'created', how we came to be. we do not have a clue...yet we have all this bible nonsense about god..again about who we do not have a clue

you are standing on sand ketchim, sand being constantly eroded by truth as water attacks sand and ultimately washes it all away