Before I Leave God, Ketchim and Me

of course..all of this is why I have to go

https://www.1843magazine.com/intelligenc...he_people_

2013 research : I took the liberty of adding 6 years of births for 2019

"In many parts of the world organised religion remains the most powerful force in society:
more than 4.5 billion people identify with one of the world's four biggest religions,
and that figure is rising."

THE ECONOMIST

mapoui post=372851 Wrote:where did you get that figure of of 5 billion affiliated to the 4 major religions?
we need to know ketchim. don't stop there..find out and let us know

what I know is that the affiliations themselves must be deciphered/analyzed for such claim to make any sense at all...

and still how they arrived at the number must also be explained: did thy take a survey? we assume that they did...but it aint necessarily so

and I don't see any byline on that economist article: deh put a lot of people together with their opinions on various subjects together. but whoever deh be their name isnt on it

yes..'her' name is there below!
I am still not impressed..Economist propaganda

Quote:Rosie Blauis a China correspondent for The Economist and a former associate editor of Intelligent Life

Quote: What is the opium of the people?

For Marx, it was religion – but that was 170 years ago, and now our society is largely secular. What’s our opiate now?

you see man..once you see an idiotic byline like that above there you know its a load of bad shit coming dong on yuh head..so to avoid it you turn the page as fast as you cyan

ketchim post=372834 Wrote:It's a belief system.........
subscribe to
OR do not subscribe to....

the debate rages on ~

you see ketchim...with no offense meant to you at all..dat is utter crap to me.

people live by what they believe..and if what the believe is wrong you see the consequences

when it comes to science and technology we must prove out before we move with anything. and once we move with something w are open as we put it to work, to learn as we go more and more truth about it to make sure we have it right

there is no such corroborative process with religion and belief. you believe and thats that.

the practice of your belief, of all beliefs we have had have caused/causes trouble all along the way. unlimited trouble, exponential trouble.. but we never review the belief, never asses it for cause, looking to adjust it, to bring it into line with practice and peaceful existence

and what rages on?

there is no logical debate going on about religion. it is an established fact that religion is jackarse, a skunt cultural/social concoction by the rich to stabilize the poor in poverty, and make them accept and love their poverty

whatever debate goes on about religion is also a concoction, carried on by the rich with themselves, with the people looking on. it is strategy to make the people feel there is yet possibility that religion is right. otherwise religion has no legs in any fight, already defeated

mapoui post=372878 Wrote:it is strategy to make the people feel there is yet possibility that religion is right. otherwise religion has no legs in any fight, already defeated

well ,the ratio of believers to non believers is 5 billion to a couple million ?
show me your statistical evidence from a proper source
IF indeed the earth currenly has a pop. of :

7.7 Billion (2019)
The current world population is 7.7 billion as of June 2019
according to the most recent United Nations estimates
elaborated by Worldometers.

Islam accounts for 1.5
Christianity for 1.4
Hinduism for 1.1

that's 4 billion even.
Then there is Judaism, Janism, Buddhism, Zorastrians, Tribal beliefs et al
even throw in Rastafari ~

Bring this hyah where it belongs

Quote:Non Believers in a Faith/Congregation continues to Dominate
Non believers in the existence of a supreme being continues to Lag behind ~

BUT to each his own : just don't foist the Lie that religion is Losing .

provide statistical evidence ~

religion has lost the fight. there is no more fight even if there are a whole lot of people lost and in belief of what is not true, and so outside of life, and become a source of danger to their own survival in nature..and survival of the human species

the proven history of the human species is undeniable. you cannot refute it..it is there. you must deny the truth to hold on the the lies of Genesis and the whole Bible.. and the Koran and all the holy books.

nature is ever changing truth. the holy books are never-changing static concoctions that are increasingly askance of reality

humanity has been on planet earth for an extraordinarily long time. human experience outstrips all the holy books, too big for them. they are lies because they do not include the whole human story..a story that would wreck them all if made available to all humanity

the lies of religion produces human fanaticism and insanity, murderous fanatics everywhere who are available for manipulation by the masters of chaos. the shock troops who wrecked Libya and Syria are Muslims themselves, in the employ of the enemy of Islam, Christianity/Christian, in full mode attack on Islam.

how can a religion be valid when its own adherents are so fanatic and crazy as to attack itself on a vast level seeking to destroy the very thing they believe in?

and on the christian side..how can a religion of god seek to destroy another religion of god and all its adherents?

would it not be better to get to a table and compare and contrast, talk negotiate, promote research for truth and when truth is found to resolve bot religions according to the truth, and so two can become one, an end to existential opposition and war that can wipe both of the earth. can wipe the Earth too!

why the fuck are they fighting when survival lies in the truth?

they are fighting because they are two fake classes who live by lies and cannot afford truth..for truth will destroy then both..not unite them both. if they were both sincere, originated in sincerity and want to go on in sincerit, then they would have no fear of taking the road I suggest to clarity and unity....talking and merging on truth. they would not have had to await my suggestion, they would have long found that path on their own looking for truth and survival

all it proves is that at the end of the day it is not god who is at the bottom of all this, but greedy, lying, traitorous, murderous and criminal religious classes at the bottom of it all. and the issue is not religious at all but economic..each class must protect their turn after all that is how they live. with organized religion we are dealing with competing criminal mafias who recognize no limits on their competition. and the facilitators of this ridiculous, mass murdering charade are the masses of stupid believers who give of their time and money that allows these killing organized entities to live in predatory parasitism on the social life of humanity

that and a whole lot more of that kind of shit is why religion loose already. more and more the truth will come out to become an overwhelming factor that cannot be denied, and wash away human rot and fake that is religion as we know it.

in the interim we may discover right directions to/for god as we have already. I have pointed to some already. these have nothing to do with the crap doctrines we have going on for the past 500 years or so, that has brought humanity to its knees

if you are a believer and a defender of religion you loose already and don't know for there is no truth at all to religion..only belief in fantasy. you are reduced to proffer up in your defense figures from a most discredited factotum and source in the world..the Economist, a capitalist 'wrag'. without qualification and analysis that put proper and accurate picture on those numbers

ketchim post=372886 Wrote:Islam accounts for 1.5
Christianity for 1.4
Hinduism for 1.1

that's 4 billion even.
Then there is Judaism, Janism, Buddhism, Zorastrians, Tribal beliefs et al
even throw in Rastafari ~

as I said and insist on: those results are generalized and do not tell any kind or story or reality. from own experience I see a different figuration or religious beliefs. most people have their own ideas and go to church to relate as they see fit not according to any established church doctrine

I don't know anyone who loves the Pope for eg. and I don't know anyone who would trust a catholic priest with their children..especially their boy-children.

I don't know in fact anyone at all who would trust any priest at all..with and in any dam thing period. look deh..right outside my window I ask about 15 people already about religion and how they feel..outside my window, at the park doing my exercises.
15...not one god dam positive answer. and none go to church..old and young

why don't you try dat ketchim..ask people how they feel about religion...and don't let your personal feelings and outlook get in the way

I shud not have said not one positive answer.

it is accurate to say: not one answer in favor of religion, the church and belief in god