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second One-Day International at Christchurch

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23 Dec 2017 09:03 - 23 Dec 2017 09:46 #356527 by mapoui

well..england is neo-liberal..and so is australia..and canada..new zealand. India too, and Pakistan..yet they have suffered..or not permitted..any such destruction of the community/family traditions that have led to the destruction of the west indies team. indeed no cricket country at all has suffered as much as the west indies in the changes that have taken place but observing the west indies I don't see that neo liberalism is the cause as such..as the utterly rabid west indian black elites are..and their deliberate and extreme bureaucratization of the cricket

as I have tried to establish it is a social thing with them. they always were determined to kill the cricket seeing it as their social enemy, a grave social danger to their local/regional hegemony

the black elites could not touch cricket as long as local white elites were in charge..or were afraid of the white power. but as soon as white control ended..from 1995 on-wards.. they began hollowing out the cricket. Skameron is the flowering of that movement. Skameron is an ornery beast, smart and skilfull, brutal and heartless.

Skameron is the Cecil Rhodes of the destruction of west indies cricket and the establishment of its managed death at great profit for himself and his kind. Skameron will keep west indies cricket all but dead, alive enough..but just so..enough to bring in the revenues he needs to keep the bureaucracy going, even expanding
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23 Dec 2017 09:10 #356528 by alex
There is no doubt that there are some practical things that can be done to at least bring our cricket up to competitive standards. But at the end of the day, we have no power to stop our better players from preferring to play lucrative club cricket rather than for the West Indies. We also seem to have little power to determine who coach our cricketers and oversee a possible rebirth of our glory.

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23 Dec 2017 10:42 #356529 by mapoui
I doan understan' ? why don't we have power to determine who coaches our players????

and why cant we pay better, and make our representative schedule in such ways as to eliminate or minimize clashes between west indian official fixtures and T20/ODI competitions that require our players

to improve the standards currently is simple:
pay more to attract talent to the game..and not only cash
all that is useful to players in taking their careers/lives forward can be added if possible..an made an on-going, developing process. eg how many players want a university degree. we have several universities in the west indies..what about scholarships there for those who want to play cricket?
get them jobs in the field they want to pursue after cricket..set them up in all relevant ways that matter. that to is payment and may redirect youth away from games like basketball, athletics etc.
if they can get all that and more at home they may not go abroad..and may choose cricket

cut the bureaucracy..rather kill it. it is too large and too expensive and totally pointless. when I say cut I mean cut..cut it out... reform the administration period..no blasted bureaucracy. how can that be done? put the players in charge..make a cricket cooperative. that way the cricket can really be spread in the region to the concrete benefit of all who play and work in the game

far from the question of power to select our coaches if that is what you mean, cut out the fucking HC period. no friggin head coach. head coaches are not for cricket but for other games. the manager and all powerful captain are the officials that fit cricket. that is how the game evolved. the HC is an expensive and intrusive and palpably useless official in the game now. the HC has added a layer of control that make the captain useless... on the field and off it..but not to the benefit of the game..you need your captains out there performing in excelsis...and off the field too, as the team leader and imposing figure.

but the HC is a man who mus' be the absolute right fit if he is to be of the modicum of use he can be. but that modicum not enough to bother with the position. most times the HC is an arsehole whose shelf life is very short because of that fact. Few HC last as long as any captain can last. and most of HC's want 'their own captain and keeper..not those whom the HC before selected. the HC usually mucks up the whole process.

the HC is as much an ego game as it is any dam thing else. the HC attracts a jackass of a personality type..an egomaniac who is fragile emotionally, seeks to impose himself creating all manner of classes as he goes. the HC is a thing for football/soccer with all its glamour frivolities and ephemeral nature. the HC is a jackass fit in cricket. he should be tossed, but I dont care what the others do. I would not wait on them just fiyah my current HC and dont hire any more..simply return to the old status

also there must be no coaching at all at the top levels of the game. coaching is best at the very young and younger levels of the game. and even there we must be absolutely sure of the coaches we deploy. we don't want those jackasses going out there and spoiling talent. traumatizing youth and aborting their potential.

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23 Dec 2017 11:16 #356530 by ketchim
Methink the Coach thought that Kiwis were fielding a B team !
no Kane, no Guptil, no BJ, no Ross....
so there was a chance to work on kiwis new players
win toss and let Gabriel 90 mph wrap 'em up ; ably assisted by Beaton !
that sure as hell backfired !
this squad cannot even beat a C team.....

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23 Dec 2017 12:00 #356537 by renegade
We now have foreigners coaching our cricketers and managing our cricket—there is nothing more ironical than that. And It is not as if we don’t have suitable West Indians to perform those functions. And what to do about players who evidently cannot read the game, who play as if their heads are somewhere other than on the field of play? The future continues to look bleak.

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23 Dec 2017 12:36 - 23 Dec 2017 12:37 #356542 by timmyj51
Holy moly!! :blink: Wut a STINKJOB!!! :ohmy: Rastas in field bowl long hop afer long hop, afer
long hop! :blink: At bat kaint hit short balls, kaint hit overpitched balls, kaint defen' good
lenth balls! :S WHITEWASH!!!!...wid bleach 'n steam press!!! :sick: :sick: :sick:
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23 Dec 2017 12:55 #356544 by ketchim
we need to fire Courtney Browne the INSULAR chief of Selections.
there are waayyy better batsmen and bowlers in the region !

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23 Dec 2017 13:08 #356546 by chairman
President of Cricket West Indies (CWI) Dave Cameron during his feature address at the 2017 Guyana Cricket Board annual awards ceremony, hailed Guyana for its recent contribution to West Indies Cricket; while calling for more ambassadorship from its players.
Cameron made his voice heard during the gala held on Wednesday evening at the Umana Yana where he urged the cricketers in attendance while delivering his speech, to remember that they are all ambassadors for the West Indies.
“I want you to understand that as players, you are ambassadors for the region, and so when you go out to play I want you to understand that you represent us as ambassadors for this wonderful region we are all a part of”, said the CWI President.
CWI President Dave Cameron during the 2017 GCB award ceremony
He continued, “You the cricketers do not represent Guyana alone, but just remember you represent the people of the West Indies and as a Guyanese you are a West India, if you are a Jamaican you are a West Indian’.
Veteran Guyana batsman and ex-West Indies captain Shiv Chanderpaul was deemed as invaluable by Cameron who said the 43 year-old has been one of the main reasons behind Guyana’s success, crediting the left-hander’s brilliant stint in England as more reasons to celebrate his presence in the side.
Cameron hailed the state of Guyana cricket for being in safe hands with GCB Secretary and West Indies Director Anand Sanasie who he credited for taking Guyana’s cricket to the next level. He believed with Guyana producing a huge number of West Indies ‘A’ and West Indies senior players every season, it is safe to say Guyana has been playing their role in the redevelopment of West Indies cricket.
The CWI Head admitted the West Indies have work cut out if they want to regain the status they once held as world champions in Test cricket. Formerly known as the West Indies Cricket Board (WICB), CWI according to Cameron is in a good financial position compared to the past.
Cameron added that the accountability has made the board even more effective as they seek to work with players in order to keep Windies cricket in the right place. “Our trust in our new strategic plan going forward is having our cricketers lead us, and if you lead us then we will follow and support”.
In closing, Cameron said the task to take cricket back to the pinnacle of excellence will be challenging but believed that once the determination and drive was channeled by the various entities, West Indies cricket can surpass that of old.

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