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Whe Should The Great Players Retire?

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26 Jan 2017 10:56 #333655 by zacaroni
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One Tour Too Many is the title of a chapter in David Foot’s Wally Hammond: The Reasons Why. Therein the author argues that the man who Sir Leonard Hutton described as “the most perfect batsman I ever saw, more enjoyable to watch than Sir Don”, might have made a misjudgment when he embarked on his last tour to Australia in the winter of 1946-47.

“Hammond was now 43,” Foot wrote, “His eyes were tired and his teeth stained from nicotine. Some of the natural exuberances had gone from his exquisite strokeplay, even though he had just topped the first-class averages again (84.90) and at times batted quite beautifully in limited appearances.”

Hammond’s Test average is 58.45. But he ended that tour with a total of 168 runs in eight innings, averaging a paltry 21.00, and looked nothing like the master batsman the Australians had witnessed on prior visits. In short: Wally Hammond was no longer Wally Hammond.

By 1980, Muhammad Ali was no longer Ali. “The Greatest,” now 38, was about to challenge his friend, one-time sparring partner and WBC heavyweight champion, Larry Holmes. To anyone paying close attention, and even to casual onlookers, this was not the Ali of years past. This was not the “float like a butterfly, sting like a bee” Ali. The fast-dancing, fast-talking, supple, athlete was replaced by one who slurred his words, was slightly labouring in his movements.

Whether admitting it or not, those around him noticed. They saw the transformation, saw Ali was slowing, but felt some compulsion to indulge the great man. It wasn’t as if he’d not been doubted before – few thought he could’ve beaten Sonny Liston, and later, George Foreman – but even against the most foreboding odds he somehow found a way. They were sure he’d find a way again.

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26 Jan 2017 11:02 #333656 by ketchim
Great or Senior ?  :-\

cricketwindies.com/forum/the-pitch/seniors-on-a-roll-!/

Is it because of Pigmentation ??
(tongue in cheek but worth a thought)

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26 Jan 2017 11:06 #333657 by mapoui
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I always wondered why Viv retired when he did.  it was good for Lara but I thought he could go on for more years...

Lara too..Richardson..Greenidge..Haynes..even impse Lloyd ::LOL:: ::LOL:: ::LOL::

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26 Jan 2017 11:16 #333659 by ketchim
Rohan Kanhai was a 40 year old : Inaugural WC 1975

www.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/player/52287.html

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26 Jan 2017 13:16 #333668 by ketchim
There is also the ' dependence' factor !

are the younger players dependent on the Seniors  :-\

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27 Jan 2017 10:54 #333716 by ketchim
Shiv 101 vs the mighty Jamaica pace attack/ w Jerome Taylor

as a 42 year old  ;)

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27 Jan 2017 11:44 #333732 by ketchim
newsroom.gy/2017/01/27/chanderpaul-signs-lancashire/

Lancashire signs the Great Man.

One man's garbage is another man's TREASURE !

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27 Jan 2017 11:53 #333733 by ketchim
Garfield, here is your answer : nothing to do with chronological age  ;)

Head Coach Glen Chapple prioritise strengthening Lancashire batting unit
heading into the 2017 season.

Head Coach Phil Simmons prioritise retiring this W.I. batting unit
heading into the 2015 season

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27 Jan 2017 14:14 #333747 by ketchim
BUT we have a bunch of Racist and Insular Selectors

aided and abetted by a dysfunctional Board

that empowers the entitlement of a certain group !


Your question therefore is not applicable to West Indies cricket.

a romantic notion as per usual  ;)

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27 Jan 2017 15:15 #333752 by zacaroni
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But chronological age must be a factor or 60-year-olds would be playing tests. Chanderpaul had lost form at the end. He seems to be in good form now. But at that age losing form is always taken as a sign of the effects of age. I bet if Yours has a run of low scores now people in Pakistan will be calling for his head

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