>

Darren Bravo : poor performances

More
11 Nov 2016 09:13 #326574 by ketchim
WICB chairman Dave Cameron has said Darren Bravo was offered a Grade-C contract

because his "poor" recent performances did not merit a higher pay grade.

Cameron also revealed that of the 15 players who were recently offered WICB contracts

till September 2017, only Kraigg Brathwaite and Marlon Samuels

had received contracts higher than the C category.

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

More
11 Nov 2016 09:14 #326575 by ketchim
Along with Bravo, Carlos Brathwaite and Samuels, who was given a Grade-B contract,

had declined the board's offer. .

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

More
11 Nov 2016 09:16 #326576 by ketchim
"If you continue to keep giving him an A contract then what is the motivation

to get better? He has been on an A contract and he hasn't done well."


This is the first time that the WICB offered an explanation of the contract Bravo

was offered.

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

More
11 Nov 2016 11:09 #326581 by ketchim
"You hav been failing 4 d last 4yrs.

Y don't u resign and FYI I've neva been given an A contract.

Big idiot @davec51,"


Bravo said on Twitter.  ::LOL::

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

More
11 Nov 2016 11:46 #326585 by The Captain
him quit too
hahaha

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • TRINIDADDY
  • Visitor
  • Visitor
11 Nov 2016 14:52 #326590 by TRINIDADDY

This is a well-meaning but faulty contract system.

Sure, you can't reward someone solely based on their last 12 months. A guy averaging 100 over the last 12 months doesn't deserve a good contract if his career average is nevertheless only 10.

But weighing the "last 12 months average" against their "career average" leads to different kinds of abberations, like Marlon Samuels - who has sucked forever - getting "rewarded" a higher contract than Bravo because he sucks less than his usual suckage.

The WICB should tweak their algorithm or have a policy whereby it is only a guideline. It's a good idea though. I like what Cameron is doing with this pay structure.

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • dillinger10
  • Visitor
  • Visitor
11 Nov 2016 19:34 - 11 Nov 2016 20:05 #326603 by dillinger10
As we discussed earlier in the year, Bravo's biggest problem is his inability to score runs at home. He is a world beater when playing overseas, but when playing at home, he becomes a below average batsman. His record in the subcontinent is sublime. He is one of only 16 non-Asian batsman to score 1000+ runs in the subcontinent with an average greater than 50 (Sobers, Kanhai, Lara, Kallicharran and Lloyd are the other 5 WI batsmen on this elite list).

cricketwindies.com/the-pitch/darren-bravo's-homeaway-splits/



Below is Bravo's 10 innings moving average, which I believe is a better way to judge a player's current form.


Click image to enlarge

Click image to enlarge

Bravo's 3-year weighted average is 34.06. His median score is 24.0 - the same as Haynes, Crowe, Gomes, Vengsarkar and Vaughan. Pretty good company. For reference, a median score of 13 is average, 30+ is considered elite. Bradman tops the list with a median score of 56.5. Everton Weekes has the highest median score by a WI batsman (36.0).

For comparison, Marlon's 3 year weighted Test average is 25.49, and his median score is 17.0. 
Last edit: 11 Nov 2016 20:05 by dillinger10.

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

More
12 Nov 2016 11:58 #326637 by chairman
The selection panel of the WICB has named Jason Mohammed to replace Darren Bravo in the squad

Always tell someone how you feel because opportunities are lost in the blink of an eye but regret can last a lifetime.
cricketwindies.com/forum/

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • dillinger10
  • Visitor
  • Visitor
12 Nov 2016 12:45 #326644 by dillinger10
Even after giving this one some more thought, I am at a loss for words. Even accounting for his struggles at home, Bravo is clearly the second best Test player on the team.

His two year average between 2012-2014 was 42.42, though this was somewhat boosted by the series against Bangladesh. If you remove those six innings, his average drops to 37.26, pretty much in line with his average (34.03) over his last two years. In the six series over the last two years, Bravo averaged 39.50 against England, 12.25 against Australia at home, 36.00 against Sri Lanka, 49.40 against Australia in Australia, 19.85 against India and 45.50 against Pakistan.

Why should any player show any loyalty to the board if they aren't going to show any loyalty to them. As a player, I would take great offence to Marlon Samuels being offered a higher grade contract. That is a joke.

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

Time to create page: 0.172 seconds
Travisketchim?(12.11.2025, 17:40)(17:40)0
Traviskwami?(12.11.2025, 17:40)(17:40)0
Traviswho is this(12.11.2025, 17:39)(17:39)0
AlvinChairmsn, I cant Log in(11.11.2025, 17:16)(17:16)0
SerenaThis batting performance by the West Indies in the second innings blew me away. I kept closing my eyes and then rubbing and opening them again and sat transfixed as I watch that unbelievable partnership between John Campbell and Shai Hope. What a magnificent performance by these two! It just goes to show that patience, determination and effort can go a long way to improve the performances of the West Indies team. Let us hope that this effort by West Indies batsmen would not be a one-off performance, but will be the beginning of a renewed effort to improve the performances of the team, going forward.(13.10.2025, 09:28)(09:28)0
SerenaJohn Campbell breaks a 23-year drought for West Indies openers with a Test hundred in India!

#INDvsWI #INDvWI #JohnCampbell
(13.10.2025, 05:49)(05:49)0
SerenaLet's celebrate that Ind will have to bat again as a notable achievement(13.10.2025, 05:32)(05:32)0
SerenaDefeat in Ahmedabad, we move to Delhi with an aim to the level the series.

#INDvWI | #MenInMaroon
(04.10.2025, 10:38)(10:38)0
Serena? USA Cricket Files for Bankruptcy

The Chapter 11 filing makes it the first known ICC member to declare bankruptcy. ⚡?
(03.10.2025, 12:22)(12:22)0
SerenaA maiden test wicket for Khary Pierre ends a challenging day 2️⃣

#INDvWI
(03.10.2025, 12:15)(12:15)0
SerenaWhy is WI best batter batting at #6 and why is he even keeping wickets in test?(03.10.2025, 07:26)(07:26)0
SerenaGive warrican vice captain on wat basis the man does nothing not even help chase(03.10.2025, 07:10)(07:10)0
SerenaWI waiting for declaration. India most likely will declare if or when both Jurel and Jadeja get to their 100s.(03.10.2025, 05:35)(05:35)0
Kade162 all out : India 121-2 stumps, day1(02.10.2025, 16:00)(16:00)0
Serenaif marriage certificate could get expire like driver's licence a lot of married men will never renew it(27.09.2025, 10:54)(10:54)0
WarrenJameis Winston is asked about being named QB3 on the Giants' roster behind Russell Wilson and Jaxson Dart:

"As a competitor, you want to be the starter. But I prepare to be the starter, I know I'm a starter in this league.

But you have to be able to be grateful for your role...my role right now is to assist Russ and Jaxson to be the best that they can be while preparing to be the best that I can be.

No matter if I'm 3, 33, this is my first year being number 19, so it's always a first for everything.

I focus on what I would love. And what I would love is for this team to have success."
(13.09.2025, 10:58)(10:58)0
Monicae(11.09.2025, 17:03)(17:03)0
RylandLol... Hetmyer. Fell agonizingly short of his century! Just 91 more he needed!(08.09.2025, 05:53)(05:53)0
RylandThe progress of the PPP government should not be judged by the dissenting voices of a few, but by the tangible benefits it has brought to everyone.(02.09.2025, 17:51)(17:51)0
Warren2 firefighters battling Washington state wildfire arrested by Border Patrol(29.08.2025, 10:51)(10:51)0
SalvadorPresident Ali hints at possible Christmas cash grant(27.08.2025, 12:36)(12:36)0
Sierrahi(27.08.2025, 12:07)(12:07)0
SergioWhat food could you eat every day of the week because you love it so much?(25.08.2025, 13:41)(13:41)0
KingsleyIsrael strikes a Gaza hospital twice, killing at least 20, including journalists and rescuers(25.08.2025, 11:27)(11:27)0
KingsleyShubman Gill returns to India's T20I squad as vice-captain for Asia Cup(20.08.2025, 12:54)(12:54)0
KingstonCanada's government forced Air Canada and its striking flight attendants back to work and into arbitration Saturday after a work stoppage stranded more than 100,000 travelers around the world.(16.08.2025, 18:08)(18:08)0
KingsleyGovernment papers found in an Alaskan hotel reveal new details of Trump-Putin summit(16.08.2025, 17:59)(17:59)0
LawrenceI'm confused how a cemetery can raise its funeral prices and blame it on the cost of living. ?(15.08.2025, 07:03)(07:03)0
LawrenceNext up West Indies play Nepal in a 3 match series (T20i), starting on the 27th Sept.(13.08.2025, 13:49)(13:49)0
JayleeFor the first time since 1991, we have won a bilateral series v Pakistan!??

What a win!?
(12.08.2025, 16:57)(16:57)0
LawrenceI think if the Japanese take up cricket seriously they will be really good at it ?? ??(11.08.2025, 18:40)(18:40)0
LillieTo the man who united West Indies like no other, remembering Sir Frank Worrell on his birth anniversary ??

#RoyalsFamily
(02.08.2025, 15:32)(15:32)0
RobertIt looks like another whitewash is in the making for West Indies.(01.08.2025, 08:13)(08:13)0
ChristinaThe ICC should remove the West Indies from participating in International Cricket ?
No Cricketing Nation should be embarrassed.
(01.08.2025, 05:39)(05:39)0
JayleeToll-free travel across Wismar, Berbice, Demerara bridges from midnight!(31.07.2025, 19:24)(19:24)0
JayleeAnother party accuses WIN of being duplicitous, stealing its ideas(31.07.2025, 19:24)(19:24)0
ChristinaI get the feeling that the players don't wish to play for Sammy(26.07.2025, 08:20)(08:20)0
QuintinSad day?? Lol. How many T20I matches russell played regularly for wi cricket? Even in the last T20 series tour in eng he was in the squad but he played only 1 match out of 3. Lol sad day(19.07.2025, 18:44)(18:44)0
ChristinaIt is time for a full evaluation and accountability to the people of this region for the disastrous batting performance of the West Indies Cricket Team. We cannot disregard what all of us witnessed and endured in the last three test matches. This is not about our players, administrators, or any individual; it is an entire system that is failing, and together, all of us must fix it now. This cannot continue into another series; we must not allow it to.(15.07.2025, 14:52)(14:52)0
ChristinaOnce again for the 5th consecutive times . West Indies has bowled out Australia(the #1 team )
within 90 overs.
Again under 300 runs
(13.07.2025, 07:10)(07:10)0
ChristinaWiaan Mulder declaring with himself being 367 not out, is beyond commendable and sportsmanship. Tho many questions will be asked.(07.07.2025, 09:06)(09:06)0
IngridHow bad are the West Indies ?
Their batting is absolutely abysmal
(06.07.2025, 15:36)(15:36)0
QuintinMexican boxer Julio César Chávez Jr. arrested by ICE for deportation, federal officials say(03.07.2025, 18:05)(18:05)0
QuintinKraigg Brathwaite reaches 100 Tests: 'I was in total disbelief that I could score a hundred for West Indies'(03.07.2025, 17:52)(17:52)0
LoganBad performance by west indies(28.06.2025, 05:48)(05:48)0
QuintinMasai Ujiri fired as Raptors president and vice chairman after 13 years with franchise(27.06.2025, 16:50)(16:50)0
LoganAustralia 180 all out(26.06.2025, 05:45)(05:45)0
Logan99 for 3(25.06.2025, 12:21)(12:21)0
LoganShammar 2 wickets(25.06.2025, 11:13)(11:13)0
Logan65 for 3 at lunch(25.06.2025, 11:12)(11:12)0
Jayla
Go to top