Holder strikes me as the kinda captain...

Comess ! from 2 Trickies  ;D

wood too ::LOL:: ::LOL:: ::LOL::

comess can come with wood too.  dat is the real comess...lixxxxx like fiyah in the bacchanal! ::LOL:: ::LOL:: ::LOL:: ::LOL:: ::LOL::

allyuh come across like country bumpkins from Tobago : compared to TD !

ADD : a sense of humor you 2 could only wish for !

I suppose every Country has weirdos.....I gats ramesh 

TD is alright.  he is no fool fuh sure... even to a country bumpkin, who only country bumpkin knows ::LOL:: ::LOL:: ::LOL::

TD, these 2 miscreants claim you are an Indo Guyanan !

you are too intelligent and humorous to be Trini  :-[

ok..so TD is Trini..why you and he get along so well..and you cant get along with anyone else here save the women ::confused::

I have never see you appreciate anything intelligent before what you see as TD's intelligence.

that makes TD's  intelligence suspect..your appreciation of it i.e..

then again TD's position on Holder is emotional and incomplete to say the least. this is not say that Holder should be captain at all. 

I agree that Holder is not a good captain, should be dropped period, set free to go roam the world making a living.  but I don't think we ought to beat the hell out of him, degrade him further that the tragedy he already represents

also TD's position relative to Dowrich and and Ramdin...that too is emotional.

Ramdin remains the better player by a decent margin. Ramdin is only 30 or so still young..so youth is not a factor between the 2.  Ramdin is a better keeper and still a better batsman.  Dowrich has a long way to go to match Ramdins accomplishments with the bat..and even more with the gloves.

Dropping Ramdin was ridiculous and counter productive

MAPPIPPEE,

Do not beat up the poor chap so muvpch as he will revert to comes, bacchanal TM Calypso etc.

That is all he can do, no substance, likes giving and cannot take all due to jealousy. Do not give the boy too much wood as you know he likes Black wood, runs in the family.

You made some interesting and I tend to agree with Trini about Holder. In my view Holder is quite unworthy to be in a test team and perhaps worse than Sammy as the latter used to take the odd wicket. Holder has not developed as a bowler although his batting is ok for 8 or 9!

His captaincy is piss poor always losing the initiative when in the ascension, and

Folks, we have 2 whiners that can carry on gossiping about fellow posters

This is an example of true Trini bacchanal tmCalypso  ;D


IF I encourage this thread ...........these 2 will carry on forever !

speak of substance ....hahahahaha 

remember Mail..I said this:

yes Holder appears to be stupid..very inexperienced, scared sh!tless by the captaincy
stupid, fearful in his decision, not aggressive at all.  he is not his own man..he is a boy in a job quite beyond him.

but pie bus and skam put him there.  they knew what they were doing.  and please note that despite all this he is not being replaced.  his place is sure because what qualifiers  him for skams job is the very incompetence we site.

Ramdin underplayed himself as captain which was wrong.  he shud have been aggressive, dominant, in charge regardless of who liked it.  get fired for that and nothing else.

Jimmy Adams as captain got like that too, a far cry from the aggressive, politicized young man I once met. 

well skam and dem at the wicb cant deal with that kind of man..like a young Jimmy Adams or Pollard and Bravo, who would stand up and fight back.  Holder is the opposite.  dat is why he is captain.  and dat as I said is the tragedy. 

Holder is being horribly exploited, his opportunity to grow up subsumed by the captaincy.  and when it becomes untenable to keep him in that job..next 2 years or so.. he will be discarded for another lackey.

as I have argued Holder shud be out in the world earning a living and learning the world. but by all means he shud resign the captaincy.  by now Holder shud know all this..understand what is happening to him and get to hell out. 

this excuse that I make here wont last too long. wotn stay valid for another year.  it is either he gets himself out or he too becomes to blame for the tragedy of his own life.

he better move fast! ::LOL:: ::LOL:: ::LOL::

gossip! ::confused:: ::confused::

the evidence right here in these pages..pages and pages, and pages, and pages of it..all you provided free of charge.

I doh know wat Mail will do but from now on wen you point fingahs I will point to your pages.  dat is wat we talking about board..look ketchim right deh ::LOL:: ::LOL:: ::LOL:: ::LOL::