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17 Oct 2014 13:05 #218941
by Snoopster
If that is the case, all these players will be out of work (IPL, Big Bash included) for the next 2-3 years minimum.
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17 Oct 2014 13:13 #218948
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He will make more music videos and employ the players as his sound and video technicians, dancers, drivers, cleaners etc. ::LOL::
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17 Oct 2014 13:19 #218950
by mapoui
stop yuh nonsense chat googley ah china man. >
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you always chatting anti democratic, anti ordinary people crap. who the hell are you some sort of prince up there on high. are you not some kind of working man too..from a working class family ::confused:: ::confused::
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17 Oct 2014 13:25 #218953
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Listen Maps. Googs is quite entitled to his opinions. On this one he has a point.
I am a union lawyer. I represent unions. I will always stand with workers asserting their rights. But the workers have to assert their rights in the proper way, the legal way.
Here the players do not have standing to take the actions they are taking. I'm sadden to say this but its is true. They ought to have sought out an experience reputable labour lawyer and receive independent legal advice before doing anything. They haven't done so and now all hell could break loose. They may very well be the authors of their own misfortunes.
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17 Oct 2014 13:33 #218955
by Googley
what the fork you talking about???
The problem lies with the Union and the workers...NOT the employers!! Why should the employer suffer because of that??
Having rights and abiding by rules are two damn different things!!!!!!!!
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17 Oct 2014 13:42 - 17 Oct 2014 13:48 #218956
by mapoui
and I tell you that nutten is written in stone. and if the 'proper' way is a straightjacket the people in whatever collective have a right ultimately to go outside of it and create new forms of dealing with their issues.
who make the proper way anyway..what was the popular input ::confused::
let legislation deal with what the people do later on. but the people in popular action in response to their needs is ground level precedent setting action
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17 Oct 2014 13:46 - 17 Oct 2014 13:52 #218958
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The proper way is what the players themselves have agreed to in writing. It's call the collective bargaining agreement (CBA). The terms of the CBA says that the WICB can only deal with WIPA and no other entity or individual.
The CBA, and the labour laws which govern the parties, also say that if the players have a grievance or quarrel with WIPA then they have to bring the matter before an arbitrator for adjudication. The Board is not a party to this dispute. It's between the players and their Union WIPA.
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