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11 Oct 2014 00:39 #217965 by chairman
Bipin Dani Observer Correspondent
Saturday, October 11, 2014 - Mumbai—The West Indies Cricket Board (WICB) has claimed that the players’ new payment structure had been discussed in “good spirit” and was “properly negotiated”.

Dave Cameron, the president of the WICB, speaking over telephone from Jamaica yesterday night (India time), said, “there is no crisis at our end. The terms of payment to the players were properly negotiated and decided with their association representatives and it has been well documented”.

“I wonder why players now say they are unaware about the same”.

Wavell Hinds, the president of the West Indies Players’ Association refused to take calls. He, however, is likely to arrive in India later this month, confirmed the Board chief. His tickets have also been booked along with few WICB officials, it is learnt here.

FICA willing to intervene

“This is a matter between WIPA and the West Indies players, but FICA would like to assist them to resolve it if possible. But first we have to understand the issue from both ends. The West Indies are playing at the moment so perhaps we will have a clearer idea of the full picture in the next day or two”, Tony Irish, the FICA chief said from South Africa, minutes after his arrival from London.

“It is the duty of WIPA to act in the best interests of, and support, the collective of its players”, he further added.

“We will only make decisions on whether or not to intervene when we know the fullpicture”, he signed off.

In the meantime, the FICA chief had a meeting with the the ICC chairman N. Srinivasan in London on Wednesday, when the ICC’s CEO David Richardson was also present. Srinivasan is being suspended by the Supreme Court of India as BCCI president till the Mudgal committee completes its IPL probe.

“Our meeting will hopefully be the start of constructive dialogue with the ICC on various player related issues”, Irish added.
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11 Oct 2014 10:38 #217980 by mapoui
a stinking lie that is.

the new 'pay structure' is a product of collusion between Whinds and Skameron..an agreement not negotiation.

Skameron lying through his teeth.  it is time to bell the wicb.  it is rotten a institution to its core.  the wicb keeps attracting the worst possible  west indians imaginable to its management of the regional cricket.  over the past 20 years we have had a collection of disgraceful wicb presidents unprecedentedly bad in the annals of cricket administration in all cricket history

the problem is the organization itself and its roots in the old colonialism of the region.  the cricket administration is rooted in planter domination and exploitation of the region.  that is what the wcb is about.  west indies cricket is like a farm to them, a sugar plantation, and the players slaves farming the plantation with whom the administration  can do as they please.

that is why they can get together and agree to a deal that rolls back player wages while they themselves wallow in high salaries,way more than the players make or can get to... from money made off the sweat of the players labour

and then, in the most nasty and malicious spirit, cast that rotten deed in a manner that seeks to pit west indian test players against the rest of the first class players in the region..a more callous attempt at divide and rule to mask wicb sleight of hand  one can imagine

disgusting!  from supposedly top west indian people who went to universities and have high degrees and proffessional designations, but who make out like parasites, prepared to bleed the region for their unworthy way too high salaries.

it is time to kill the wicb and start afresh with a more democratic and nationalist oriented cricket administration

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11 Oct 2014 10:50 #217986 by mapoui
Skameron is a most unworthy,smoothly destructive character, a most awful and exploitative individual who has sold out west indies cricket to Indian domination, turning west indies cricket into a lab for experimentation for Indian desire for the future of global cricket..a project that is seen by the Indian board as a potential goldmine for the millionaires who now inhabit and infest that admin..the dominant power in global cricket...dominant but for no positive reason..just their own profit

that is Whycliff Skameron..a far, far. far worse character than Hunter before him if that can be imagined.....

it is time to kill an organisation that only brings to the public power people like Skameron,Hunte and all their predecessors..minions like Tony Howard and Clyde Butts..the worst possible people imaginable, to run the regional cricket.

it is timeto bell the wicb cat, put it out in the bush to forage for its food, while a new and proper organization is created to manage west indian cricket informed and driven by west indian nationalist needs

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11 Oct 2014 11:03 #217987 by Mail
At a time when I thought some consolidation is taking place this has happened.


This whole thing could not have been explained properly, as no player would negotiate and agree to a pay cut of 75%, would they?


The new contracts have to be paid for somehow but that is down to the board, isn't it?


Rationalise the paid WICB structure, per the Wilkins recommendations, and not only would that be better for the mechanics of the board but costs as well.


Continually, the WICB find themselves at loggerheads with players.


5% cut or a freeze, perhaps, but a 75% cut in real terms no!

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11 Oct 2014 12:19 - 11 Oct 2014 12:27 #217998 by mapoui
there in your commentary Mail is the glaring fault in your method of analysis that leads you astray all the time and make you get angry with me.

it is simply a question of class..as the arbiter of social relations. you do not see class as the basis of social relations at all.  so you are always being sooprised by developments.

how come I am not sooprised by this development..indeed was expectant of it ::confused:: ::confused::

because there is a fundamental difference between the wicb and the players that cannot be resolved within the current social framework of social relations.  that is what you do not understand.  they cannot solve their differences once society remains zero sum, capitalist in which the elites dominate and run everything in their benefit.  they cannot let up or contribute to an erosion of their powes and structure of social relations.  to let up or change they will remove the basis of their own livelihoods which depends on the exploitation of the players.  they cant do that.  that is not how it goes.

there will be a war until the conditions of society changes to make one side lose and be eliminated as a social factor.  the usual destabilizing factor is the development of technology, scientific advance that pushes equal social sophistication..the advance and development of relative social relations to adapt with new ways or social organization that renders the old dominant way obsolete  passe', irrelevant..bringing in the new an up to date

but the existential dominant class, current elites, seek to go on and they fight to maintain themselves in power,  hence the social wars which the old side must loose...until like currently there is a very advanced technology they have control of they can use to seriously damage the ordinary people in order to maintain their social control

but note,  that in doing so on a macro level, they damage or eliminate the real positive current and human future potential, threatening the very existence of human itself.  the old must go regardless...which allows the new to which they..the old gave rise to,  to flourish and take society to new levels of achievement and human security

YOU KEEP LOOKING FOR SOLUTIONS WITHIN THE ESTABLISHED SOCIAL FRAME WORK BUT THERE ARE NONE MAIL..NADA..UNTIL THE SOCIETY CHANGES, REVOLUTIONIZES ITSELF. YOU REFUSE TO ACCEPT THAT BUT IT IS THE TRUTH WHICH YOU WILL SOON BE FORCED TO UNDERSTAND AND ACCEPT
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11 Oct 2014 12:22 #218000 by ketchim
Have you read the minutes of the meeting ?  :-\

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11 Oct 2014 12:30 #218003 by mapoui

I don't care to read those minutes at this time..actions speak louder than words/minutes of which we have no way of verifying one way or the other.

later for the minutes/record when its quality, veracity can be ascertained one way or the other.

the action of the players is decisive at this stage.  that and and my method which is unassailable

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11 Oct 2014 12:32 #218004 by ketchim
The Crux of the issue is in the Minutes.... :P

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11 Oct 2014 12:38 #218006 by mapoui

for you but not for me!  the minutes are a captive of the wicb/whinds between whom collusion appears clear

you can eat that if you wish.  I do not supp on such fare. 

at such time when they can be ascertained, verified as accurate... then I will take whatever they  turn out to be relative to what is discovered in the meantime of the true relationship between whinds and skameron and the wicb

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