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01 Jan 2014 14:22 #171108 by Kwami
Unfortunately  Soca Fighter is with us no more .  . She is in a better place now :)

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01 Jan 2014 14:26 #171110 by Mail
Kwams,


You are trouble my friend. Who drove fighter away? Was it you or Ketchy? There was a bit of a love affair there.


Where is the ketcmeister?

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01 Jan 2014 14:29 #171111 by Kwami
She was exposed as a fraud  ... Relentless pursued  by Ketchem :)

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01 Jan 2014 14:30 #171113 by Mail
Ahhhhhhhhh. I PM you.

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01 Jan 2014 15:21 #171128 by mapoui
so Mail and easyrider are 2 different people?

welcome back from what?

wat..mail was in a coma?

welcome back Mail.  I guess I should say dat jess in case ::LOL:: ::LOL:: ::LOL::

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01 Jan 2014 16:06 #171131 by Mail
MAPPIPPEE,


Happy new year brother and remember all is not a conspiracy.



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01 Jan 2014 16:15 #171132 by mapoui
really :(

di'ze all I see...conspiracy everwhere :)

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01 Jan 2014 16:36 #171133 by Mail
Mapster,


I hear you and there is no real need for you to think otherwise. Be yourself mate.


Happy New Year to you and your dear family.


I am so happy to converse with you after a while I am happy to overlook most things......but that will not be permanently.


I have read some of your posts, especially with the debacle in India and Kiwiland and I totally agree with you.


I have always agreed with you on Gibson and Sammy but not your view on no need for coaching staff. The world has changed.


However you know what you do make some sense, some times.


We can coexist especially in a new year.


I will be in Trinidad for part of the cricket season so come and join me and I will get you into members at QPO.



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01 Jan 2014 21:14 #171140 by chairman
well mail thats a great gesture to maps.  maps take the offer and make your grand return in 2014.

Always tell someone how you feel because opportunities are lost in the blink of an eye but regret can last a lifetime.
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01 Jan 2014 23:04 #171151 by mapoui
interesting offer. if I am there in the season I will let you know

I was kidding with you on conspiracy...I really don't care.  almost every thing is or can be a conspiracy anyway.  all that goes on is always  some plan to get someone whatever it is they want.  so all is actually conspiracy. such is life

when it comes to the head coach look at this:

there are universal principles..good for all times.  we know that today in particular that increasing popular participation is what is essential to change or improve the prognosis for society in general.  it means diffusion of power not its concentration.  at no point and juncture does concentration of power work.

what concentration of power does is is make success dependent on the person in power,,not the structure or principle involved.  the principle and the structure is or must be designed to ensure that there is success always.

when you put concentrated power in the hands of oe person you have made a recipe for more failure than success.  power corrupts.  there are no checks and balances ..or very many less than normal with concentration of power.

the head coach in cricket has been nothing but trouble and failure.  2 or 3 instances of success does not redemt the head coach but proves its failure. 

and to replace a structure witl a less democratic one is not positive or modern change but backward change.  democracy, diffusion of power, transparency is modern, up to dat change..not its opposite.  democracy is the future not dictatorship.  the head coach in cricket is arbitrary power concentrated in the hands of a functionary of a traditional low order of training whihc makes chances of success even more hit and miss.

they did not chose the the manger a position that traditionally required a functionary of a higher level of training and social facility but a coach.  which is why we can get risen up to high power incompetent and low level people like Gibson exercising power at a level that is outside their standing and competence to deal with. 

the white coaches are somewhat socially more facile than Gibson.  Gibson is even less than blue collar.  he is a complete idiot and he is so low level because he is a coach and not a manager.  but they are all nearly like Otis.  and that is the functionary chosen to give all the power to at very, very high salaries...greater than the players on the field on whom the success of the game depends .

you see it makes no sense at all.  it raise the coach..a cricket coach to the highest level of the game with the most power.  why in the hell then..one of the traditionally least positions in the game suddenly the most important for no obvious reason.

in soccer the coach is very important and gets paid even more money.  but the soccer coach or manager is a very skilled individual and is generally regarded as of higher intellect than a cricket coach.  but what is crucial is that the players earn more than the coaches so that aspect helps to keep soccer coaches in check.

it is the same way in all other sports.  in tennis a game in which there is great quantities of cash coaches are changed like so many pieces of underwear...at will..when players see fit to fi'ah one and hire another.

in american sports the coaches never get more than players.  and if they fart around with the players who goes...they go for you can always get another coach but player talent is crucial

but in cricket you get the coaches who get paid more than players..have tones of power and they get rid of players and not the other way around.  so we end up with a Gibson who can ignore  young pace, focus on aging and incompetent players, constantly lose, damage the prospects of the team long term..and still keep his job at high pay.

and this happens all the time under head coaches in cricket.  the HC has become the main man in the mix...a low level functionary, usually uneducated, hardly literate and yet the man with the power to do as he pleases, at greater salary than all others in the game.

SOMEONE HAS TO EXPLAIN TO ME... HOW THIS IS AS AN ADVANCE, A POSITIVE RESPONSE  TO MODERN CHANGES IN THE GAME OF CRICKET.

WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE TO ME:  IS THAT THE EMERGENCE OF THE HEAD COACH IN CRICKET IS AN ARBITRARY IMPOSITION ON THE GAME DIRECTED BY THE ICC, BASED ON ALREADY ESTABLISHED AND SECRET PLANS FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF CRICKET THAT HAS THE HC AS A CENTRAL FIGURE IN IT.

more conspiracy but what else can it be especially when we have the shorter forms of the game being pushed while the development of test cricket is being ignored...that form of the game being allowed to die in preference for T20 and ODI.

that to my mind is what the HC is all about.  it has nothing to do with the demands of the modern game but everything to do with ICC plans for the future of cricket. 

so I argue against head coaching because it does not help the healthy development of the game..is intended to serve the pockets of the ICC... which organisation surely has all kinds of investments and investors  lined up to exploit a future of cricket that is purely ODI and T20.

so you must get into the meat of the head coach issue Mail and see what it really is..and see how much of a waste of time and money it is especially for the west indies which does not have the cash to be wasting on coaching asses like Bennett King, John Dyson and Otis Gibson

and there is much more too Mail that exposes that there is no existential basis of good reason and fact that justifies a Head coach in cricket.  there is none!  especially when the daily routine of the head coach is examined all one can find are functions that used to be effectively carried out by manage and captain, cricket officials of a much higher and integrated and useful place than any dam coach.  one cannot find in the coaching routine..the routine of the head coach any new functions that modern conditions required.  they are the same old functions  that there ever was.

so what the hell modern demands of the game or changes that require head coaches?  where they hell are they?

there is a reason why coaches were always low level people in the game of cricket..because that is where failed cricketers and low level intellects who played the game usually ended up, to make a living for themselves in the game.  at least they could become coaches while the higher level people in the game went on to become higher level functionaries, managers, journalists and writers etc

now the ICC has made of this traditional low level idiot the highest paid functionary in the game and placed a great deal of the power in the game in his hands, passing captain, manager, selection committee and the team itself in power in just one functionary, who was traditionally the idiot, the labourer in the mix.

there head coach is a waste of time Mail, serves only elitist interest in the game...not the interest of the general fan, the team, the  nation etc.

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