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Back in the Seventies I Knew CARDI Was Working...

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20 Sep 2017 14:22 #351221 by mapoui
..on high protein forages for ruminants and pigs, focused on regional legumes.  I have been trying to find out what they achieved and what is the state of the animal husbandry industry in the west indies currently.

I am looking at west indies legumes also as the basis of animal feeds that can underpin meat and milk production..at least what has been achieved and what I may be able to work with in developing a project

the question is I am not looking at forages but at feed manufacture.....dry feeds that are bagged, mobile and can be stored

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23 Sep 2017 23:03 #351309 by Kwami
Maps of all the stuff that you posted , this intrigues me more. I have a diploma in Agriculture from a prestigious Agriculture college in Ontario.
I was always interested as to what legume plant that can be grown commercially in Guyana for cows to increase milk production. I knew from my studies here that the mainstay legume here is Alfalfa which has about an 18 % protein content . I knew of a plant in Guyana that we call wild bora that probably has the same content , but let me digress.
After I graduated ,I went to the  university OF Guelph  to study to be an agronomist but after one semester I had to drop out because of financial constraint's but I knew that I would return when  finances would not be a problem.However it never happened because I fell into bad company , loose women and the devil 's brew and my dreams turned to ashes ... The  only regret in my life .
Getting back to this legume thing . Wild bora thrives in hot weather and I am sure that it has a high protein content . My dream was to through selection and hybridisation make this into a plant that would increase milk production with a high butter fat content as well an ideal food for beef cattle .  I am actually surprised that no one has ever done anything or research about wild bora.
. Would like to continue but come tomorrow I will delete this post

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24 Sep 2017 00:25 #351310 by mapoui
dont delete the post..maybe the part you are concerned about, but leave the technical part.

Bora..I don't know but I am sure it is something we have all over the Caribbean by different names. is Bora Kudzu ::confused::
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pueraria_phaseoloides

I know CARDI was keen on that but I too left soon as I came to know of kudzu. I don't know as much as I would like to about it

there is also another grass that grows profusely, luxuriantly,  in Trinidad, in shaded and damp conditions that all cows love, eat voraciously.  I tried my best to get some interest in that going but no one cared. 

I don't know the name of that grass....we did not have a name for it-none that I remember.. but I knew it well,  developed an awareness of where in would grow in the 300 acres of the facility I worked on, and would go find huge growths of it especially after heavy rainfall.  we would cut and feed but it did not regrow as luxuriantly after cutting

and it could grow tall, straight grass up to 3 feet or so if the conditions were really suitable.

if I go back to Titty with good money I would look into that grass, and the best legume of a local origin there is.  a protein level of about 10-12% wud be a minimum for me..and upwards of course..the higher the better.

but there are reasons I am not freaked out by protein levels like..the need for local control and non GMO hybrids.  that is going to be a problem because GMO is strong in the west indies as far as I know.  so whatever is best that we have to hand and would lend itself to improvement by hybridization would be fine.

then again I am not so much interested in dairy anymore..not for milk for drinking but milk for butter, cheese and other industrial production like chocolates etc.  milk is good enriched in combination with fruit and nuts, but is poor as a stand alone drinking product relevant to human metabolism

for drinking I would focus on goats milk..goats for meat as well.  also cows for beet/meat.  and I would not be concerned with too much fat on cows for weight.  some body fat is good but not too much.  lean meat is better.  and the purpose for forage I have in mind is for good diet for the animals

I would also be interest on the coconut offal from the production of coconut oil as a feed stock base especially for pork.  I have an idea for a market that that would fit squarely

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24 Sep 2017 19:34 #351355 by chairman
Bora is bodi in Trinidad

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24 Sep 2017 23:44 #351359 by mapoui
bora is bodi eh..long bean as forage for ruminants ::confused::

I prefer Pueraria phaseoloides..Kudzu

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