India gains ground in ICC Test Team Rankings after Colombo win

413x · 09-02-2015, 01:41 PM · 1 person reading this discussion

#1
Fifth-placed India has closed the gap on neighbour Pakistan to a single point in the latest ICC Test Team Rankings following its 2-1 series triumph over Sri Lanka which concluded with a 117-run win in Colomboon Tuesday.

Virat Kohli’s side went into the three-match series on 97 points and has gained three rankings points after coming from behind to win its first overseas Test series victory since 2011. Just three points now separates England (third on 102 points), Pakistan (fourth on 101) and India (fifth on 100), with New Zealand a further point back in sixth position.

Angelo Mathews’ men, meanwhile, remain in seventh place but has dropped three rankings points

Bangladesh welcomes second-placed Australia in October for a two-match series with recently-installed captain Steven Smith aiming to close the gap on leader South Africa. Pakistan will welcome England to the UAE for a three-Test series in October/November which is likely to lead to further movement in the table, while Sri Lanka’s also hosts West Indies in a two-Test series in October.

#2
SL have lost 3 pts from this series loss ?
and India have gained just a point.?


On what basis do this rankings actually work ?


Just 1 match separated the 2 teams.

#3
[quote author=Fastbowler link=topic=99978.msg653715#msg653715 date=1441212111]
Virat Kohli’s side went into the three-match series on 97 points and has [size=10pt]gained[/size] three rankings points

Angelo Mathews’ men, meanwhile, remain in seventh place but has [size=10pt]dropped[/size] three rankings points
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aaaammmm.... Wink

#4
[quote author=ketchim link=topic=99978.msg653802#msg653802 date=1441286970]
aaaammmm.... Wink
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How can one series be so drastic in terms of ranking points.I reckon they just swap across the table.

Ask the ICC to refrain from rating teams pls.Looks like India does have a say in all things,rankings as well.

#5
[quote author=bala24 link=topic=99978.msg653971#msg653971 date=1441368913]
How can one series be so drastic in terms of ranking points.I reckon they just swap across the table.

Ask the ICC to refrain from rating teams pls.Looks like India does have a say in all things,rankings as well.
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It is much more complex than that.

1. How are the ratings calculated?
After every Test series, the two teams receive a certain number of points, based on a mathematical formula. Each team's new points total is then divided by its new match/series total to give an updated rating. With batting averages, if you are dismissed in your next innings for more than your average, your average will increase. Conversely, scoring less than your average will cause it to fall. Similarly, under the Reliance ICC Test Championship method, the points earned from a Test win will always be more than the rating the team had at the start of the series. Equivalently, a team losing a Test match will always score fewer points than its rating. So a win will always boost a team's rating and a defeat will harm it.

A draw between a higher and lower rated team will slightly benefit the rating of the lower rated team at the expense of the higher rated team. A draw between two similarly rated teams will leave both their ratings unchanged. A tied match is treated the same as a draw for rating purposes.

2. What does a particular rating signify?
A team that, over the period being rated, wins as often as it loses while playing an average mix of strong and weak opponents will have a rating of close to 100. A rating of 100 could also correspond to a side that wins more often than it loses but who has generally played more matches against weak teams. Similarly, if the majority of its matches are against strong teams, then a rating of 100 could be achieved despite having more defeats than victories. It is quite often the case that there are a number of teams in the 90-110 range. These teams are of broadly similar standard. A rating above 120 suggests consistently strong performances. Above 130 is rarely achieved and suggests a high degree of dominance over all other teams.

In every match the total rating points available equals the sum of the initial rating of the two teams, so ratings can be thought of as being redistributed rather than created. There is therefore no 'inflation' in this rating system, so a rating of 120 suggests the same degree of superiority over opponents now as in the past or future, and a team can meaningfully compare its rating movements over time.

3. How quickly do ratings change?
The amount by which a rating improves after winning a Test will depend on the rating of the opponent. A win over a much stronger team (i.e. one with a much higher rating) boosts the rating more than beating a much weaker opponent. Conversely, losing to a much stronger team will not cause the rating to drop too far, but losing to a weaker side would.

It is possible for a team to win a series yet for its rating to fall. This will happen if a stronger team wins a series but by a smaller margin than the respective ratings suggest should be the case. For example, when Australia played England in a five-Test series in 2002-03, Australia needed to win by a margin of at least three Tests just to maintain its very high rating.

4. How is the series result incorporated?
At the end of any series comprising two or more Tests, a series bonus will be awarded. Like an individual Test match, a series can be won, drawn (tied) or lost. For rating purposes, the series result is equivalent to the result of one further Test. To explain, suppose a team has just won a Test series. The series bonus can be regarded, for rating purposes, as if one extra Test has been played and won by the team that has just won the series. If a series finishes level, the series bonus is equivalent to the two teams playing an extra drawn Test.

5. What period does the table cover?
The table reflects all Test series completed since the annual update made three to four years previously. This pattern is repeated each May, with the oldest of the four years of results removed to be gradually replaced with results of matches played over the following twelve months. Thus once a year, the rankings will change overnight without any new Tests being played. This process, called updating the data, takes place at the start of May each year. This time has been chosen since it is usually a relatively quiet time in the international calendar. Before 2012, the annual update took place in August.

6. How are the results weighted?
All matches included within the Reliance ICC Team Rankings Tables will always fall into one of two time periods:

* Period One covers the earliest two years of matches
* Period Two covers all subsequent series, i.e. the past one to two years

Weightings are applied to these two groups of series so that the ratings more fully reflect recent form. The weightings are as follows:

* Period One matches have a weighting of 50 per cent.
* Period Two matches have a weighting of 100 per cent.

In the current table, series completed since last May receive a weighting of 100 per cent. After next May, the weighting of series being played now will remain at 100 per cent, while the weighting of series played in the previous year will fall to 50 per cent.

The 'match/series total' column in the Reliance ICC Test Team Rankings table comprises a combination of individual Tests and series. This total along with the number of points earned in each period is multiplied by the weighting factor. For example, suppose a team played 20 Tests and six series in Period One, plus 15 Tests and five series in Period Two. The total matches played for rating purposes is 50 per cent of (20+6) plus 100 per cent of (15+5), which equals 33. (A small technical adjustment ensures that, for all teams, the total number of matches and rating points is always a whole number.)

#6
[quote author=dillinger10 link=topic=99978.msg654174#msg654174 date=1441434538]
It is much more complex than that.

1. How are the ratings calculated?
After every Test series, the two teams receive a certain number of points, based on a mathematical formula. Each team's new points total is then divided by its new match/series total to give an updated rating. With batting averages, if you are dismissed in your next innings for more than your average, your average will increase. Conversely, scoring less than your average will cause it to fall. Similarly, under the Reliance ICC Test Championship method, the points earned from a Test win will always be more than the rating the team had at the start of the series. Equivalently, a team losing a Test match will always score fewer points than its rating. So a win will always boost a team's rating and a defeat will harm it.

A draw between a higher and lower rated team will slightly benefit the rating of the lower rated team at the expense of the higher rated team. A draw between two similarly rated teams will leave both their ratings unchanged. A tied match is treated the same as a draw for rating purposes.

2. What does a particular rating signify?
A team that, over the period being rated, wins as often as it loses while playing an average mix of strong and weak opponents will have a rating of close to 100. A rating of 100 could also correspond to a side that wins more often than it loses but who has generally played more matches against weak teams. Similarly, if the majority of its matches are against strong teams, then a rating of 100 could be achieved despite having more defeats than victories. It is quite often the case that there are a number of teams in the 90-110 range. These teams are of broadly similar standard. A rating above 120 suggests consistently strong performances. Above 130 is rarely achieved and suggests a high degree of dominance over all other teams.

In every match the total rating points available equals the sum of the initial rating of the two teams, so ratings can be thought of as being redistributed rather than created. There is therefore no 'inflation' in this rating system, so a rating of 120 suggests the same degree of superiority over opponents now as in the past or future, and a team can meaningfully compare its rating movements over time.

3. How quickly do ratings change?
The amount by which a rating improves after winning a Test will depend on the rating of the opponent. A win over a much stronger team (i.e. one with a much higher rating) boosts the rating more than beating a much weaker opponent. Conversely, losing to a much stronger team will not cause the rating to drop too far, but losing to a weaker side would.

It is possible for a team to win a series yet for its rating to fall. This will happen if a stronger team wins a series but by a smaller margin than the respective ratings suggest should be the case. For example, when Australia played England in a five-Test series in 2002-03, Australia needed to win by a margin of at least three Tests just to maintain its very high rating.

4. How is the series result incorporated?
At the end of any series comprising two or more Tests, a series bonus will be awarded. Like an individual Test match, a series can be won, drawn (tied) or lost. For rating purposes, the series result is equivalent to the result of one further Test. To explain, suppose a team has just won a Test series. The series bonus can be regarded, for rating purposes, as if one extra Test has been played and won by the team that has just won the series. If a series finishes level, the series bonus is equivalent to the two teams playing an extra drawn Test.

5. What period does the table cover?
The table reflects all Test series completed since the annual update made three to four years previously. This pattern is repeated each May, with the oldest of the four years of results removed to be gradually replaced with results of matches played over the following twelve months. Thus once a year, the rankings will change overnight without any new Tests being played. This process, called updating the data, takes place at the start of May each year. This time has been chosen since it is usually a relatively quiet time in the international calendar. Before 2012, the annual update took place in August.

6. How are the results weighted?
All matches included within the Reliance ICC Team Rankings Tables will always fall into one of two time periods:

* Period One covers the earliest two years of matches
* Period Two covers all subsequent series, i.e. the past one to two years

Weightings are applied to these two groups of series so that the ratings more fully reflect recent form. The weightings are as follows:

* Period One matches have a weighting of 50 per cent.
* Period Two matches have a weighting of 100 per cent.

In the current table, series completed since last May receive a weighting of 100 per cent. After next May, the weighting of series being played now will remain at 100 per cent, while the weighting of series played in the previous year will fall to 50 per cent.

The 'match/series total' column in the Reliance ICC Test Team Rankings table comprises a combination of individual Tests and series. This total along with the number of points earned in each period is multiplied by the weighting factor. For example, suppose a team played 20 Tests and six series in Period One, plus 15 Tests and five series in Period Two. The total matches played for rating purposes is 50 per cent of (20+6) plus 100 per cent of (15+5), which equals 33. (A small technical adjustment ensures that, for all teams, the total number of matches and rating points is always a whole number.)
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Duhhh..
Way too complex..Oh maybe that's why most people never really question the rating system.
Do you believe there is a flaw in the concept that every series will surely alter your position in the ranking table.?

#7
If you were to simply use win-loss ratio against the top 8 teams over the last three-years as an indicator for the rankings, the table would look like this:

1. South Africa
2. England
3. New Zealand
4. Australia
5. India
6. Pakistan
7. Sri Lanka
8. Zimbabwe
9. West Indies
10. Bangladesh

Obviously this doesn't take weighted results into consideration, as such, results from this year are worth the same as 3 years ago. I am sure you will agree that it is only fair that recent matches are given a greater weighting and also wins against higher ranked teams should also be worth more points.

#8
[quote author=dillinger10 link=topic=99978.msg654279#msg654279 date=1441519825]
If you were to simply use win-loss ratio against the top 8 teams over the last three-years as an indicator for the rankings, the table would look like this:

1. South Africa
2. England
3. New Zealand
4. Australia
5. India
6. Pakistan
7. Sri Lanka
8. Zimbabwe
9. West Indies
10. Bangladesh

Obviously this doesn't take weighted results into consideration, as such, results from this year are worth the same as 3 years ago. I am sure you will agree that it is only fair that recent matches are given a greater weighting and also wins against higher ranked teams should also be worth more points.
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Nonetheless,the original too looks the same.
With Aus and SA alone having a jag at the top.

Of course..yes..Recent matches ought to be given a fair percentage of the total points on stack.

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