The Coach on the GREAT Shivnarine

[quote author=ketchim link=topic=97420.msg634878#msg634878 date=1430332821]
[size=12pt]" He was called in as a replacement for Phil Simmons, now West Indies’ head coach "[/size]
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I thought was Gus Logie ....cause I remember Hooper making a chess like gambit  for Shiv 

gambit noun

A strategic move, often in chess but also in politics/business, where a player sacrifices something up front for future gain.

The noun gambit comes from an Italian word, gambetto, which means “tripping up.”

[quote author=Rev link=topic=97420.msg634861#msg634861 date=1430330247]
GREENIDGE PLAYED UNTIL HE WAS 41

* Check his last 15 scores in tests:

3, 11, 12, 10, 21, 1, 27, 35, 2, 5*, 12, 10, [size=12pt]226[/size], 6, 43

http://howstat.com/cricket/Statistics/Pl...yerID=0648

* Other than that big double--Greenidge struggled in the end.

* Hopefully Shiv has one big score left in him.

Rev
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Good stuff, Rev.

For comparison Shiv's last 15 innings: 47, 15, 25, 85*, 84*, 101*, 21, 4, 7, 9, 50, 46, 13, 1, 7. By my count that makes a total of 515 runs at an average of 42.92 although if you take out the three scores against Bangladesh his average drops down to 20.42. Shiv sure does love batting against Bangladesh - a career average of 149.50 in 10 matches. His last six scores against Bangladesh: 203*, 1, 150*, 85*, 84*, 101*. A pretty nifty 624 average.  8)

A random stat I found while digging through the data: Shiv is just one of 11 batsman to score 1000+ runs after turning 39.

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/...pe=batting

Lloyd had an average of 50.85 in 8 innings after turning 40. He averaged 48.54 over his last 15 innings.

[quote author=ketchim link=topic=97420.msg634878#msg634878 date=1430332821]
[size=12pt]" He was called in as a replacement for Phil Simmons, now West Indies’ head coach "[/size]

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2015/ap...est-indies

whom knew this ???  :-\

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[i]I didn't  ......

Interesting the stats that the 'numbers guys' (namely Rev, Dillinger and sometimes Trinidaddy) keep putting up on here !! .... Oh well we'll see .... numbers don't lie according to Rev. 

Crunch dem numbers Tiger !!!  .... [/[i]

[quote author=ketchim link=topic=97420.msg634854#msg634854 date=1430329844]
Phil simmons on Shivnarine Chanderpaul:

“He’s having a bad series, but  all the greats have had bad series. We didn’t drop them.

I remember Clive Lloyd at 41;

I remember Gordon Greenidge at 41.

Shiv is still 40.

zthid squashes all the nay sayers wanting Shiv to be dropped before he get teh 12K runs.

And he is working as hard as anyone. We have four experienced guys in the side and they all need to make their presence felt.”

-ESPNCricinfo.Com
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Records are set and meant to be broken .... and I really don't understand the insularity.  I see it as Shiv setting a new record for WI and the 'haters' see it as breaking Lara's record.

Sad .... but I hope he does take the record as it would be a credit to his long standing career......... and here's hoping Cub Tage takes up the mantle from Tiger Shiv...

You go Shiv !!!

[quote author=Calypso link=topic=97420.msg635005#msg635005 date=1430405196]
Records are set and meant to be broken .... and I really don't understand the insularity.  I see it as Shiv setting a new record for WI and the 'haters' see it as breaking Lara's record.

Sad .... but I hope he does take the record as it would be a credit to his long standing career......... and here's hoping Cub Tage takes up the mantle from Tiger Shiv...

You go Shiv !!!
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* If Shiv(11842) were to score the 112 runs needed, then  he "ordinary Shiv" would then sit at the top of the mountain ahead of 3 extraordinary greats:

LIST OF HIGHEST WI TEST SCORERS

11954 Chanderpaul
11953 Lara
8540 Richards
8032 Sobers

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/...pe=batting

[size=12pt]* Many Prejudiced West Indians see it as an egregious sin for the Unity Bhai to be perched ahead of the 3 extraordinary West Indians greats.
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Rev

HERE ARE SHIV'S SCORES IN HIS LAST 4 TESTS AT KENSINGTON OVAL

37 and 12 = 49 runs vs India in 2011

103* and 12 = 115 runs vs Australia in 2012

26 and DNB = 26 runs vs Zimbabwe in 2013

15 and 25 = 40 runs vs New Zealand in 2014


OBSERVATION:

* All of Shiv's scores in his last 4 tests at Kensington have been double figures.

* In 3 of the tests Shiv batted in both innings and scored: 49, 115, 40

* Based on Shiv's recent performance at Kensington it is reasonable to expect Shiv to score a total of 40 runs in his two innings versus England.

* Of course Shiv can stun the cricket world and score a hundred like he did against Australia in 2012.

Rev

Phil Simmons judgments needs  to be questioned.
West Indies drew a game that they should have lost and lose  a game that they should have drawn.
I would not put much weight on his statement that Chanderpaul is great . Remember that Chanderpaul thrived under Gibson and is failing miserably under Simmons

[quote author=ramesh link=topic=97420.msg635072#msg635072 date=1430413506]
Phil Simmons judgments needs  to be questioned.
West Indies drew a game that they should have lost and lose  a game that they should have drawn.
I would not put much weight on his statement that Chanderpaul is great . Remember that Chanderpaul thrived under Gibson and is failing miserably under Simmons
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*[size=12pt] If Darren Bravo or Kraig Brathwaite or Jermaine Blackwood were to play 163 tests and score 11,842 runs with 30 hundreds and 66 fifties, then you Ramo and your fellow West Indians would deem those players to be great. But East Indian Shiv is judged by an impossible standard by you prejudiced scoundrels.
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Rev