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http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2015/01/...g-roberts/

Quote:Russia In The Cross Hairs

Paul Craig Roberts

Washington’s attack on Russia has moved beyond the boundary of the absurd into the realm of insanity.

The New Chief of the US Broadcasting Board of Governors, Andrew Lack, has declared the Russian news service, RT, which broadcasts in multiple languages, to be a terrorist organization equivalent to Boko Haram and the Islamic State, and Standard and Poor’s just downgraded Russia’s credit rating to junk status.

Today RT International interviewed me about these insane developments.

In prior days when America was still a sane country, Lack’s charge would have led to him being laughed out of office. He would have had to resign and disappear from public life. Today in the make-believe world that Western propaganda has created, Lack’s statement is taken seriously. Yet another terrorist threat has been identified–RT. (Although both Boko Haram and the Islamic State employ terror, strictly speaking they are political organizations seeking to rule, not terror organizations, but this distinction would be over Lack’s head. Yes, I know. There is a good joke that could be made here about what Lack lacks. Appropriately named and all that.)

Nevertheless, whatever Lack might lack, I doubt he believes his nonsensical statement that RT is a terrorist organization. So what is his game?

The answer is that the Western presstitute media by becoming Ministries of Propaganda for Washington, have created large markets for RT, Press TV, and Al Jazeera. As more and more of the peoples of the world turn to these more honest news sources, Washington’s ability to fabricate self-serving explanations has declined.

RT in particular has a large Western audience. The contrast between RT’s truthful reporting and the lies spewed by US media is undermining Washington’s control of the explanation. This is no longer acceptable.

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http://vineyardsaker.blogspot.ca/

Quote:pl

Wednesday, January 28, 2015

"When the word comes ‘it’s time’" -- Zakharchenko's geopolitical analysis
By Aleksandr Zakharchenko

Translated from Russian by J.Hawk for FortRuss

If one is to speak without geopolitical complexities and nuances, the situation is extremely simple. This is a battle for the continent, for the international system, for one’s own taiga. They are desperately attacking us and are trying to take us down quickly. They use all means at their disposal, except for direct military intervention on Russia’s territory. They are destroying Russians outside their boarders, are raising foreign legions in order to invade the country. The West undertook to destroy us for the simple reason it is trying to avert its own destruction. The main factors are the destruction of the economy and of the political authorities of Russia.

The main factor that might allow them to accomplish this is the decay within Russia, a split within the Russian government, the spreading of hatred among the people. That’s the reason for the constant provocations and the divide-and-conquer policies: inter-ethnic animosities, hatred toward the state, toward big capital (specifically the pro-Russian), toward the Orthodox Church, toward its own people and everything around it. All of that is being done to get Russia to destroy itself from within. But that’s precisely what is not happening. Everything is breaking apart against the unity of the government which has the support of its people which feels as if it was in a besieged fortress together with its leader. Even capitalists like Usmanov, Vekselberg, and others, who chose the West, moved their assets from offshore accounts back to Russia. Even Shuvalov swore his loyalty to Putin in Davos. To say nothing of ordinary mortals. No matter how much is said about “Putin the billionaire” and the government for sale, in spite of all the problems and the worsening financial situation, the solidarity with the national leader is not only not growing weaker, but is getting stronger. What is more, the people want him to act more firmly and not compromise with the West, no matter what the cost.

This is what angers the West so. It is trying to promote division and chaos in Russia but it is not happening. The only remaining possibility is to try to destroy the economy, to deprive Russia from access to dollars (which for the West itself is the equivalent of hara-kiri), or to convince Russians that Putin is their enemy and thus deprive him of his national support. Yes, the so-called patriotic maidan. There is an opportunity here, but a small one. And it is closely tied to the situation on the Donbass. It’s a primitive calculation: keep shouting that “Donbass was abandoned”, “there are idiots in the Kremlin”, “Surkov sold out”, etc. Putin is kept out of the line of fire in the first round, and the whole emphasis is on the myth of a palace coup (i.e., Putin was betrayed, they are deceiving him). But they are also pushing the “Putin abandoned the Donbass” line, and sooner or later someone will shout “we have no Czar!” and “down with the Czar!”. This, in a situation of conflict with the West, ought to help topple the “Putin regime.” Donbass is being used as leverage to increase dissatisfaction with the Kremlin: if you introduce Russian forces, you become an international pariah and Hitler (which is more or less how he has been labeled), if you don’t send in troops, you are a traitor.

Moscow chose an intermediate approach of containing Western aggression (until the x-hour) and indirect military confrontation on Ukraine’s territory. Yes, this is not the best variant from the perspective of the Donbass inhabitants. Moreover, it is a forced strategy based on the current realities: Russia’s forces are insufficient for a rapid victory over the consolidated West which, even though it is a giant clay feet, is still the dominant force in the world. As part of this post-Crimean strategy, Russia is taking steps which are far from obvious, but which nevertheless allow the aggression to be repelled. Yes, the position adopted by the eternal critics, who demand a cardinal resolution of the Ukrainian question arguing that it will have to be done “sooner or later”, may seem just and attractive to a patriotically-minded people who suffer at the sight of the dead inhabitants of the Donbass. But the critics don’t want to understand that in their desire to strike the final blow here and now, they are helping the West by forcing the Kremlin to strike when the West still has sufficient power. But the time is working against Washington. Even though it is assembling foreign legions against Russia and is taking Russian lives every day, it is not accomplishing its own task of destroying Russia in the nearest few months. To remove it from the world map as a single political unit. Break it up as an organism. If you want to take up the fight “sooner”, you may not find yourself living in Russia “later.”

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Quote:If the majority of us understand it with our hearts and minds, then the final victory will be Russia’s. But if we stray from that path, even with good intentions, in the hopes of solving the problem here and now, we will lose. Everyone’s duty right now is to help the Donbass to the extent they can, and not give in to emotions, even if they are sincere or provocative. Be fully prepared for the moment when the word comes “it’s time.”

Translator’s Note: Zakharchenko is without any doubt one of the foremost Russian leaders of our time, one who not only proved himself an able commander of the DPR, but also someone who has a grasp of the big picture. And the big picture is one in which the West is suffering a systemic crisis not unlike the Great Depression, and is trying to stave off an internal breakdown through political and economic expansion. Hence the recent regime changes in the Middle East and elsewhere, hence the Maidan. EU and the US must keep finding new markets, otherwise their internal policies of austerity are bound to destroy their own economies. It need not be so—Greece’s recent election represents a ray of hope that Western institutions may yet be reformed. But one should not put too many hopes in the little Greece’s ability to stand alone against Germany and its quislings within the EU bureaucracy. What is happening in Ukraine is today’s equivalent of the Spanish Civil War. Then, too, USSR stood alone against fascism, hoping to enlist the help of like-minded citizens of Europe and to send a message to the aggressors. Had that war ended differently, tens of millions of people would not have perished in the Second World War. The stakes are equally high today. Russia’s stand is aimed at encouraging resistance within the EU (Greece’s suggests its stand is already having an effect) and also persuading would-be aggressors that the cost of aggression would be too high. As much is at stake in the Donbass today as was in Spain in 1938.

[quote author=ketchim link=topic=95384.msg615279#msg615279 date=1422495360]
http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/up...827377.ece

bala, what is the general feeling on this matter where you are ?  :-\

“the son of a tea vendor can be PM, a Dalit can draft the Constitution

and the grandson of a cook can be President.”
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I enquiring upstairs on this !

Snoopster gonna draw you a Cartoon 

[quote author=ketchim link=topic=95438.msg615283#msg615283 date=1422496555]
Snoopster gonna draw you a Cartoon 
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I hope its a good one. I want to understand Putin man.  what the hell kind of game is he playing.  it makes no sense unless he himself is a another Gorbachev.

check Zarkarchenkos opinion..opposed to Roberts.

Roberts is not optimistic at all.  he knows the west really well Roberts although I see some serious flaws in his argument already.  but Roberts is right about the west  Obama and dem.  they are relentless, totally amoral and corrupt.

[quote author=mapoui link=topic=95438.msg615287#msg615287 date=1422496863]
but Roberts is right about the west  Obama and dem.  they are relentless, totally amoral and corrupt.
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And every other country isn't?

Then which one?

Which country isn't totally amoral and corrupt?

[size=14pt]Here is a response from Bhadrakumar on that Hindu article[/size]

http://blogs.rediff.com/mkbhadrakumar/ca...diplomacy/

Quote:Obama ticks off India’s ‘Sangh Parivar’

Trust a high-level visit to throw up surprises when least expected. President Barack Obama’s visit to India has concluded on controversial note. Just before he departed from India on Tuesday, in his town hall address in Delhi, Obama waded into a topic that even India’s brave-hearted prime minister, Narendra Modi fears to tread – freedom of religion in India.

Obama said, “India will succeed so long as it is not splintered along the lines of religious faith, as long as it is not splintered along any lines, and it is unified as one nation.” On the face of it, it is such a noble thought. But Obama said this in Modi’s India, “a country with a history of strife between Hindus and minorities.” (Reuters). These are extraordinary times in India with Modi’s government tacitly acquiescing in the campaign by Hindu nationalists (Sangh Parivar, as they are popularly called in India) that India is a “Hindu Rashtra”. Modi himself has kept a deafening silence on the issue, refusing to criticize the Hindu zealots.

Obama also took a swipe at the Hindu nationalists’ campaign to get India’s Christian and Muslim minorities to change their faith. He warned India not to stray from its constitutional commitment to allow people to freely “profess, practice and propagate” religion. “Every person has the right to practice their religion and beliefs and not practice it if they choose so without any persecution. No society is immune from the darkest impulses of men and too often, religion has been used to tap into those instead of the light of God. The peace we seek in the world begins in human hearts.”

Bhardrakumar continued

Quote:Of course, Obama made no direct reference to Modi himself, but the remarks would rankle nonetheless, since the Indian prime minister was himself ‘blacklisted’ for visa by the US for a decade on account of his alleged role in the anti-Muslim riots in Gujarat in 2002. Most certainly, the leaders of the powerful Hindu nationalist movement, which mentors Modi’s government, will not like being handed down such a sermon. No doubt, it is a parting kick at them by Obama.

And in this case, they have every reason to feel furious, because no matter his good intentions, Obama touched on an issue that is in every sense India’s domestic affair. His references constitute an interference in India’s internal affair and he should not have done that while on a state visit. But then, Obama is Obama and he also made public references to India’s relations with Iran and made a vicious attack on Russia and Vladimir Putin — and all this with Modi standing beside him.

One cannot but feel a bit sorry for Modi himself. He did all that is humanly possible to create such unprecedented hype during Obama’s visit. He must be feeling badly let down that all his showmanship over the past three days in front of television cameras  – from the moment Obama landed in Delhi, Modi has been in attendance and doing nothing else – lies in tatters. At the end of the day, Obama’s remarks are a reflection of the India under his rule. And the image doesn’t look good. That’s the honest truth. But then, the good part, hopefully, is that in all this Modi would have also learnt now that diplomacy cannot be reduced to a circus, and he may have realized, even if belatedly, that he went overboard in these past three days.

Did Obama himself get carried away by his keen sense of America’s ‘exceptionalism’? I don’t think so. Make no mistake, he spoke with deliberation because it is in the US’ interests that he said what he said. To be sure, it will resonate well back home in America. For the benefit of the uninitiated, let me give the link to an article in the latest issue of the Wilson Quarterly titled, “Foreign Policy Experts Ignore the Role of Religion in Western Politics”.

[quote author=pattycake link=topic=95438.msg615288#msg615288 date=1422497119]
And every other country isn't?

Then which one?

Which country isn't totally amoral and corrupt?
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read and compare pattacake..and help me with your conclusion on Putin..based on the opinions of Roberts and Zarkarchenko..and the situation between the USA and Russia

Quote:The peace we seek in the world begins in human hearts

Exactly....

But peace isn't an individual thing.

It's attached to a long string of other things.