I implied nothing about your beliefs Snoopy....I am not that bold to speculate as to another's mode of sanctuary. As I say, whatever floats your boat
Yes it has been fun, however you are still to answer my question. Please note that Hammurabi codes are very recent in chronological terms. You haven’t touched upon Manu yet, and I hope that you know who he is. But that is for another time.
Remember, because you don't recognize something, that does not mean that it doesn't exist. You are only cognizant of what you can observe based on your expertise/awareness, and that is based upon your intelligence. If a man finds that solace/comfort/divinity in religion or outside of religion then I am all for that. However who gives me, or you, for that matter, the right to question the belief or non-belief?
If you would have read all those books, then I am hard pressed to believe that you, in your atheistic wisdom, could not decipher any moral codes/values. Begs to ask the question: What were you reading?
Patty Cake…I really don’t care if the morals I was taught originated from the stars, or from the seas…all that matters to me is that I was taught strong values, and it was enough that it was taught to me, and that I incorporate those values into my daily existence.
Patty Cake…I really don’t care if the morals I was taught originated from the stars, or from the seas…all that matters to me is that I was taught strong values, and it was enough that it was taught to me, and that I incorporate those values into my daily existence.
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But how do you know that your values are strong? What makes you think that? Because it came from religion?
My values are strong because I live them....that is a greater testimony to the strength of values...that it endures the passage of time, and develops character and personality as was intended by my parents, and before them my parents' parents.
Again. my values could have come from timbuktu...I don't care. I was taught by people who cared enough to enrich my life with such values...truth, compassion, peace, non-violence etc.
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My values are strong because I live them....that is a greater testimony to the strength of values...that it endures the passage of time, and develops character and personality as was intended by my parents, and before them my parents' parents.
Again. my values could have come from timbuktu...I don't care. I was taught by people who cared enough to enrich my life with such values...truth, compassion, peace, non-violence etc.
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Okay, I understand. But in my perception of strong values, I cannot see not challenging the status quo. And so I always dare to question people's beliefs, which is something that you feel should be silenced. The world cannot evolve spiritually in silence. And thus, I would imagine that your values are questionable.
You value challenging the status quo...whether that is good or bad I don't know. That is part of your value system. I am not asking you or anyone to be silent; I am asking by whose authority do we question another's belief? And if so why? After-all, what makes my/your belief any stronger/greater/better than any one else's?
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You value challenging the status quo...whether that is good or bad I don't know. That is part of your value system. I am not asking you or anyone to be silent; I am asking by whose authority do we question another's belief? And if so why? After-all, what makes my/your belief any stronger/greater/better than any one else's?
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If you don't know whether or not challenging the status quo is good or bad, then you can't be the value you think you are. You're basically a person who ebbs with the tide or rolls with the stones. And I surely know whether that's a bad or good thing. It's a bad thing because such a person can't be trusted. They will always go along with the hand that feeds them.
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Pattax, the crazy cartoonists taking over and seem to have a HUGE foloowing.
Snoopster dont realise it as yet but he is sounding like a Fanatic ! :o
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I think that Snoop stands strong on his conviction that Islam is bull crap. And I agree with him on that but also for all religions.