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this is from an intriguing website I have found:  Vineyard of the Saker

Quote:http://www.vineyardsaker.es/
Monday, December 22, 2014
Vineyard of the Saker White Paper: the China-Russia Double Helix
Dear friends,

Today I sharing with you a document which I personally consider as absolutely crucial: an in-depth analysis of the China-Russia Strategic Alliance (RCSA) written by somebody who looks at it from the "Chinese side".  I want to tell you a few words about how this document came into existence.

I was talking with Larchmonter 445 about the development in Russia when I realized that a lot of his arguments centered around the relationship between China and Russia and when I probed him further I realized that he knew a lot about it.  Not only that, but he had come to the exact same conclusions about the RCSA as I had, but he came to the from the other, Chinese, side.  That's when I asked him to write a short analysis of this topics, and Larchmonter 445 agreed.  Except that is as a perfectionist workaholic and his short analysis ended up 25 pages long and with 39 footnotes!  As a result, what I can now share with you is a comprehensive survey of all the officially known components of the RCSA (you can bet that there are many more which I kept secret!).

I find Larchmonter 445's image of a double helix particularly appropriate because what we are witnessing here is the birth of a new geopolitical "life form" so to speak, an informal alliance of two countries which goes much deeper than most regular alliances do: what we are seeing is the mutual agreement to establish a full-spectrum geostrategic symbiosis between two civilizational realms as both Russia and China are what used to be called 'empires' in the past but which today are what I call "civilizational realms": multi-ethnic, multi-national and multi-religious ex-empires whose influence extends beyond their current national borders and whose international strategic "weight" makes far more akin to continents then to countries.

Make no mistake, what we are seeing is something unprecedented in history and it is much more than just an "alliance".  After all, an alliance can easily be broken and country A can decide to switch from an alliance with country B to an alliance with country C.  In the case of the RCSA what we are seeing is something much more akin to the birth of Siamese twins: in a geopolitical tectonic shift, Russia and China have decided to be shared not just "at the hip", but with many "vital organs and systems" including energy and defense, of course, but also their economies and long term development policies.  Each symbiont will keep its own head and brain, but they will share "torsos".

I would argue that this is by far the single most important political development since the end of WWII and probably the most important one in this century: it is hard to overstate the implications of what this means and Obama's famous "pivot" to Asia is completely dwarfed and, really, rendered utterly irrelevant by this new reality: typically, while the Obama roared and barked, Putin and Xi Jinping quietly, but profoundly, changed the planetary equilibrium.  I wonder if somebody will dare tell the White House.

I urge you all to carefully read Larchmonter 445' White Paper and to keep it for future reference (in particular all the recent developments he lists).  Since it was too long to post here, I have made it available for download from Mediafire in ZIP, ODT, DOCX and PDF file formats.  You can find the link to the Mediafire directory right under Larchmonter 445's introductory remarks below.

A big THANK YOU to Larchmonter 445!

I hope that you will enjoy this great read.

Quote:Introduction by Larchmonter 445:

Saker asked me if I could provide an article regarding China and Russia. I told him that I thought the entwining of the two was far deeper and meaningful than 'deals' for commodities and weapons. He added that the two militaries had gone through highly unique, for the two nations, training and had scheduled more for next year to push their integration capabilities.

I felt that what I had learned studying China for over a dozen years, the relationship was qualitatively unique in international history, far from just a special partnership category. There was a bonding in process. Double Helix was, to my mind, an ideal metaphor. Thus, the article became a large presentation. But the two nations are two of the largest and the bonding in process is comprehensive. To give it light, it took length and some depth.

One other note, I could have added another 20-30 footnotes, but it is another purpose of the philosophy of the Vineyard, as Saker has expressed, for the visitors, readers, commenters and participants do research of their own, contribute material and facts dug up and shared. In other words, one voice does not make anything authoritative and final. I agree. In the spirit of Orthodox practice, challenge whatever you find in error or doubt.

I found it best to read in pdf on my iPad. Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays and remember to donate to the Saker. He uses most of 18 hours a day of nearly every day to make this blog work for you. The Vineyard is our megaphone and resource in the resistance to hegemony and the destruction of life and human values. Chip in with 'green ammo'

Larchmonter 445

this is from the DL..first page:

Quote:Vineyard of the Saker WHITE PAPER
2014: Russia-China Resistance
The DOUBLE HELIX: CHINA-RUSSIA
—Larchmonter 445
Vladimir Putin said it clearly: “Russia and China will have a significant effect on the
entire system of international relations. The relationship will be a significant factor in
world politics and will affect the contemporary architecture of international relations . . .”
And to state precisely what this relationship means in geopolitical sea change, President
Putin continued: “Russia and China have never had such trusting relations in the military
field as they do now. Military exercises have been in joint war games at sea and ground
both in Russia and China.” (1)
The mega trade deals we have seen this year and military exercises are more than
normal cross-border trade or cooperative events between neighbors or partners. (2)
The ‘relationship’ is affecting the global order. The two nations are forming a
resistance front against destabilization and the weapons of chaos of a unipolar
system.
Russia and China are working together to stabilize international trade, diplomacy
and military balances; yet, ironically, this is disruptive.
Russia and China are sovereign nation resistance fighters against the Hegemon.
The Hegemon is the unipolar Empire of the United States.
This context of geopolitical strategies is paramount to bear in mind. The
Hegemon is threatening to contain both Russia and China economically with
exclusionary trade agreements (TPP and TTIP) that leave China and Russia out or
marginalized as second tier members, while each is bordered militarily with
nuclear weapons on missiles of the trade partners, Hegemon’s allies and vassals.
(This is the so-called missile defense shield of the West.)
These hegemonic trade agreements will shut out China and Russia from further
integration with the two groups. Limits for growth, suppression of development
due to monopoly of intellectual properties, oppressive clean energy and pollution
control regimes, limits on construction and sale or purchase and use of certain
commodities will slow infrastructure projects, not only within both nations, but
constrict each nation from contracting for projects in other nations (their own
partners that are emerging or developing nations)

From the look of things, the last 2 weeks have shown that there is no Russian/Chinese "hegemonic relationship". The Americans got the Saudis to flood the market with cheap oil, the Chinese immediately stopped purchasing from Russia, and now, combined with massive sanctions imposed upon Russian, and a small coup in the Russian Central Bank, the Russian economy is slowly being crippled. China is sitting back and watching; it doesnt care. It just goes to the cheapest seller.

Do not mess with Uncle Sam. You can bluff him for a little while, but he will crush you. Uncle Sam took Ukraine out from under Putin's nose, and now its bleeding Moscow. Putin will raise interest rates to keep foreign money pouring into the country, but it won't work. He will go broke, he will be forced to start borrowing from banks outside Russia, and they will impose more "restructuring policies" on him, forcing him to sell off sectors of Russia owned by his cronies to Western cronies. His only other alternative is to just let Russia ride a wave of poverty for a while, default on loans (he's got nukes; he's the only country the banksters cant bully into paying back debts if he doesnt want to), and see how long the Saudis can keep pumping out artificially cheap oil.

that does not compute as far as I can tell trinnidaddy. Putin has options that you do not consider..that you may not know about.  Russia is not loosing.

Quote:Do not mess with Uncle Sam. You can bluff him for a little while, but he will crush you. Uncle Sam took Ukraine out from under Putin's nose, and now its bleeding Moscow. Putin will raise interest rates to keep foreign money pouring into the country, but it won't work. He will go broke, he will be forced to start borrowing from banks outside Russia, and they will impose more "restructuring policies" on him, forcing him to sell off sectors of Russia owned by his cronies to Western cronies. His only other alternative is to just let Russia ride a wave of poverty for a while, default on loans (he's got nukes; he's the only country the banksters cant bully into paying back debts if he doesnt want to), and see how long the Saudis can keep pumping out artificially cheap oil.

no offense Trinnidaddy but there are things here that do not clarify in my head:

that is an opinion written by one who comments on the Saker blog, apparently requested by the man who runs the blog.  it is  his opinion the depth of the relationship developing between the Chinese and Russians.  there is no way to prove at the moment whether he is wrong or right.  if we use our heads and stick narrowly to experience and history it seems illogical for the Russians to trust the Chinese to the extent suggested by that poster.  there is nothing in that longstanding relationship that would warrant such rapid integration.  I mean Russia and China were in military stand-off not more than 50-65 years ago.
so we must take that opinion with a grain of salt.

you must also remember that:

that Russia is not like most countries in the world their currencies/central banks prisoner to the Zionists.  Putin took back the Russian central bank/Russian ruble and kicked out the Zionists.  Putin has set a very bad(good) example for the world, which is a current and additional reason the Zionists/Jews hate Putin/Russia so much... and using Obama and the American political classes have pitted America against Russia, apparently with intent to lead to a war in which Israel theoretically will be to the side, while the 2 giants smash each other into existential futility.

the Russian/Jewish enmity is a longstanding one of truly deep dimension.  I don't think the Jews will stop until they kill every last Russian/or the Russians kill them.  the Jewish financial power is responsible for the Russian carnage of the Bolshevik Revolution and world war 2.  it is also responsible for the modern rape of Russian wealth when that nation fell under traitor Gorbachev.  most of the Russian oligarchs are Jews.  they constitute a fifth column in Russia at the moment, a deadly group enemy of Putin.

Putin has economic options:
the Russian currency can be decoupled from international trade and speculation with the ruble, stopped cold

just like America does with its own currency with all its debts denominated in USD..Russian can print its money to meet its obligations almost endlessly.

Russia has been the number one hoarder of gold in the world.  Russia  is flush with gold..real gold.  Russia is also one of the worlds top gold producers, close to #1 if not #1

Russia has all kinds of options to screw the US economy that Putin never uses.  somebody suggested that the Russians get into the gold shorting market..you know the paper futures the Zionists use to keep the price of gold down ::confused::  a simple purchase of the right amount of gold paper..a few billion.. along with an absolute demand for delivery of the physical gold,  would collapse that market.  and if the gold short collapses and gold appreciates to its proper value the USD collapses for investments would run from US treasuries to gold. for silver too because the same applies with silver, platinum..all precious metals

similarly there a many ways the tottering US economy can be harmed..just like they try to harm the Russians.  it would lead to all our economic warfare of course..but that is what we already have.. and soon enough hot war.  and the idea is that this is what the Zionists want, but Putin plays a different game.  Putin is not a fool..and if all this is genuine confrontation between Russia and America, Putin appears to be ready to fight but following the best possible path to avoid war.

then again it is not as if America is a self sufficient monopoly able to deliver punishment to other countries and remain solvent. America depends on others, or ropes in its client states to do its dirty work now. 

America is an empire that has established relationships around the world that are coercive and totally exploitative, through dictatorial political classes it has imposed on those dominated nations. there is not one single nation that is doing America's bidding currently to bring  pressure on Russia, that is not cutting off its nose to spoil its face.  and the point is that America must use those nations to get the effect it wants on Russia....American cannot do it alone.  and as in Saudi Arabia, all American client states have populations in total opposition to the governments America has imposed on them..opposition that supports internal warfare against those corrupt dictators.

the European populations are all against their governments for supporting Obama's Russian policies.  All the Latins are opposed, Muslims too.  and all the Muslim oil producers lose tons of revenue by low oil and gas prices.  they must all draw down reserves in huge quantities to meet their national budgets..all for American interest.  the same principle you raise with China seeking its own selfish interest in the current cheap hydrocarbons market applies here:  why must Arab countries draw down reserves, literally bankrupt themselves for American interests ::confused::

and what happens to them at the end of all this ::confused::

bankrupt..will America see to their economic replenishment ::confused:: would America be in a position to do..or will America even want to ::confused::  that is the question.

in a world in which Venezuela and Russia can also flood the market and keep prices low why wont they tit for tat..as long the Muslim dictators remain in power for example ::confused:: 

then again that bankrupt and weak Arab oil producers suits Israel.  the would be easy pickings for Israeli control at the end of this, their capacity to  oppose Israel done, Muslims finished as a force in the world..all of them bankrupt.

it looks to me like the target of all this is not only Russia but all countries..especially the jackass Arab/Muslim dictators now taking their countries to destruction for Zion.  low oil prices is a mugs game, a fools game that is calculated to knock off all development in the world that challenges the USD and American hegemony. it is a total attack, all out war on an economic basis so far... and the fools do not see it.  this is not about Russia per se.  Russia is the noise, the distraction that hides the fact that they all lose in the end and America regains/retains its domination.

it is a desperate American great game tactic for all the marbles..that is intended to waste down all Americas opposition..actual and potential. in potential all the people of the world are opposed to America.  they must be whether they are conscious of it or not.  America is the enemy of the world.  it is in the worlds interest to liberate itself from America.  so this here must be an attack on the world, that very world oppositional character of things American,  that can break out at any time and chase America back into its borders, eliminating Zionist power globally.

that is more like what I see here..and it tends to explain Putin's reaction, the game he is playing.  he is up against enemies globally and internally. no doubt he can smash internal Russian opposition and establish dictatorial power.  I think he believes that he must maintain and develop Russia as a democracy, an example of what he intends for the world..and that dictatorial power would not serve any positive end..that in fact is what the Zionists want...another Soviet style Russian social monster that they can again control from the top down. but Putin resists, pushing ahead with democracy

there are also many economic benefits for Russia from a low ruble that they are already taking advantage of.  there is increasing focus on internal Russian economic development that they have ignored up to now, but have begun to push forward..development that would eliminate dependency on imports..

also America is a hollowed out economic centre, again, dependent on the rest of the world for its sustenance.  racing against time the
Americans are playing desperately, trying  games like low oil prices.  they have put the Saudi royal family between rocks and hard places.  the Saudi Royals will have bankrupt Saudi Arabia, in which case that would leave them defenseless against their own population, against the Jewish state, against Iran.  and we know in the end America does not care about them in the  least.  all their 'pets' are expendable in the end...a hard and terminal lesson Saddam learned

dats my trend at the moment. 

I don't see america as a strong force in the situation but a dying desperate factor that has unleashed global economic war on the world under the guise of attack on Russia.

this is aimed at all nations n the planet to retain Zionist global economic control, to prevent nations from taking back their central banks and control of their currencies and kicking out the parasites..killing once and for all debt based international economics..the free lunch the Zionists have used to secure the international power they are now losing

america is their policeman going about the planet beating the hell out of everyone forcing them to submit to extreme exploitation.  they are trying to extend heir power seriously desperate means.  I suspect that in the end as it is clear its over they will push the button anyway

the chinese know this and far far better than I..that america is the enemy.  they are tied up in side confrontations with america for long now due to the basic fact they are enemies and in the end one side must lose and that side is america..and what america is likely to do on the way down.  there is no way the chinse would betray the Russians here I argue because it is not in their to do so.  it is in chinese interest to stand  firm with Russia against america.

in addition the economic future of the planet leis in the east where the bulk of the people are, in development of the vast asian continent all the way to the atlantic coast of western europe..which is in fact western asia...and the pacific ocean.

[size=14pt]that is in fact where the action is..a development that will dwarf anything that has so far been done by humanity..and the chinese are in the drivers seat.  such development will make america a midget soon enough, absorbed by the east, with no need for no dam Zionist parasite. 

to prove this, one only must look at what china has already done, and continues to do in china and in the world.. along with their conceptions for the future already exposed

why in the hell would china betray Russia and that awesome potential for an increasingly decrepit, war-mongering, insane and rotten to the core, desperate american/zionist parasitic and pockmarked, genocidal world view ::confused:: ::confused:: ::confused:: ::confused::[/size]

TD meant USA as a puppet on the Zion string  ::LOL::

we must also note the variance of the reported path and policies of the chinese in the world as they go about making what appears to be mutually beneficial deals with nations around he world..and the behavior of chinese communities around the world too.

the traditional behavior of such communities has been consistently ethnocentric o the greatest extreme.  that is how it was and how it still is.  the Chinese are traditionally prejudiced, isolationist, zenophobic...and especially their attitude to black people which has been and still is as far as I can see racist.  regardless of whatever the general truth may be about black people the Chinese are extraordinary contemptuous of black people.  and that is a serious warning flag in he developing relationship between China and African nations

my point is that while we talk about full integration between Russia and China there cannot be a great variance between the behavior of Chinese around the world and the Chinese government itself.  they are all like that..and must be like that or otherwise what can they be... ::confused:: ::confused:: ::confused::


I am afraid we will have to wait for such integration if it proves over time to be the way human beings must go in order to survive..integrate socially and otherwise

then again for sure there is a lot scientifically that is not popular knowledge.  the public is not kept abreast of current scientific developments

for example we have this tremendous development/expansion of energy infrastructure to use oil and natural gas...yet it is clear that there is already great knowledge of alternative energy sources that are electrically based, are limitless, likely pollution free, and can be harvested directly from the environment. there is also the same for communications potential of an instantaneous nature that spans vast stretches of the universe..and that it is expected that soon enough like radio, humans will be able to attach communications devices to..which means that if humanity develops space travel it does not matter where we are in the universe we can send email instantaneously:-[ :-[ :-[ :-[

and of course if email then we can send ultimately solid objects as well.  watch out for transporter technology ::LOL:: ::LOL:: ::LOL::

them guys..Chinese, Amricans, Russians, Indians already know about all this and more I am sure.  we debate and argue much in the dark about things. we do not now all that is know and those who know aint telling > > >