Elijah Muhammad Lied

pattycake · 10-29-2014, 06:16 PM · 1 person reading this discussion

#21
[quote author=Kwami link=topic=93675.msg596731#msg596731 date=1414663661]
Now you messin wid Ketchem  religion.
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Is like me telling you the Nazi swastika is an Evil symbol : because of Adolf  Hitler:

when in fact it is as Ancient as the Hindu religion ...

Samjay ?  Wink

#22
[quote author=mapoui link=topic=93675.msg596717#msg596717 date=1414647683]
since pattacake land all he talking about is race......

poogly misses no opportunity to propagandize me as racist..no matter how faint the connection is to racism in whatever I say

his absence relative to pattacake posts is most interesting.  since the impse can tel l a racist a mile off how come he not up pattacake nose yet for his racism
  :o :o :o >Sad >Sad >Sad
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what did Patty said is racist? 

unlike you...who sees everything in the form of race...here you go

Quote:he and ridiculous Rev arguing that while Pollard and Bravo making T20 money Ramdin sits at home not making any..as if they would have been making money if they had sold out and accepted a 75% loss of money

that is nothing but racism..absolutely ignorant racism.  they so blind and stupid they want Ramdin who does not get usually get T20 work to end up making literally nothing for being west indies captain

Those guys, Rev and Ketch are stating the facts!  Bravo and Pollard hookwinked Ramo into the strike...now they are off making money while Ramo stays home with his wife.

whats racist about that? 

#23
[quote author=Kwami link=topic=93675.msg596732#msg596732 date=1414664154]
In addition to liar , I can now add stupid to believe the Yakub bulls*** .

The whole  concept of Yakub was invented by the founder of the Nation of Islam.

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Yakub is well verified in the Bible.

In fact, the entire Bible, old and new testament, are entirely based upon Yakub.  Smile

Elijah didn't make that up. But he's the only one I know of who went mainstream with the information, because the truth about Yakub is taught in mystery schools. And Elijah attended mystery school for 3 years before starting his NOI cult, but he didn't tell the whole truth about Yakub. He told it as a fairy-tale, which is how all of the stories in religion are told. Jesus Christ is told as a fairy-tale, but he was a real person who changed the world in a real way. And his real name is Yakub. A jewish man told me a long time ago that Jesus was black, but I didn't realize then that he was talking about Yakub. Jesus and Muhammad aren't the big co cheese in religion for nothing.

#24
[quote author=TRINIDADDY link=topic=93675.msg596734#msg596734 date=1414666537]
Elijah Muhammed was a con-man and The Nation of Islam is in no way progressive; it is in fact far-right. It has little connection to mainstream Islam, its theological teachings involve various conspiracy theories, un-scientific views of race and human history and its supposed revelatory "magical" teachings are all borrowed from Gnostic/conspiracy lore.

Over the years, the NOI has reformed itself and become more "mainstream" and "mellow", but it has a history of sucking up to white supremacists and other ultrarightists and usually steers away from real fights against racism. This, of course, is why Malcom X broke away from it. Remember, Elijah Muhammed called for racial seperation and non-engagement. Guys like Malcolm X and Mohammed Ali thought he was an idiot. They both joined for the NOI's anti-racist political aspects but eventually refined their thoughts and left because of all the religious as well as conservative nonsense the group peddles.

The NOI's concept of Black nationalism is also pretty stupid, based largely on Black business and the interests of Black businessmen. It also holds typical far-right positions on a lot of political issues, from opposing women's equality to scapegoating Koreans and Jews.

But the fact that the CIA allowed the NOI (and Elijah Muhammed) to continue, tells you all you need to know about it.
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Well mainstream islam hasn't done anything for people either, but keep people fighting. And it too is firmly nestled upon the foundation of inequality for women and no protection for children. After all, it was a white Muslim who trained Elijah and taught him the ropes, and Muamrmar Gaddafi who lent him the money to get started, another white Muslim. And it was actually Gaddafi who ordered the hit on Malcolm, an order that Elijah had to comply with. And as far as racism goes, Arab Muslims are still using African slaves today. And the reason Malcolm left the NOI is because he eventually saw that Elijah was just living on idolatry and telling them what they want to hear.

It was actually his wife Betty who forced him to face facts.

#25
So who is telling the truth Ms. Patty? 

This should be interesting.
8)

#26
[quote author=Snoopster link=topic=93675.msg596830#msg596830 date=1414693283]
So who is telling the truth Ms. Patty? 

This should be interesting.
8)
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You mean between NOI and mainstream Islam?

Or which religion in general?

#27
[quote author=pattycake link=topic=93675.msg596834#msg596834 date=1414693485]
You mean between NOI and mainstream Islam?

Or which religion in general?
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In general.  And not just in regards to religion.  Politics, economics, any discipline or field.  Let's hear it. 8)

#28
[quote author=pattycake link=topic=93675.msg596826#msg596826 date=1414692338]
Well mainstream islam hasn't done anything for people either ....

and it too is firmly nestled upon the foundation of inequality for women and no protection for children.
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Show me any reference to the sriptures on this.

Cause I will show you where they were commanded the OPPOSITE of what you wrote there......

Any reference material that teach you to write such misinformation will be welcomd : all of us can view it !

I await patiently ...

#29
[quote author=Snoopster link=topic=93675.msg596843#msg596843 date=1414696534]
In general.  And not just in regards to religion.  Politics, economics, any discipline or field.  Let's hear it. 8)
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Oh...

Okay, here it is:

The universe has a set of laws and an immutable system that it functions by.

Nothing is just spontaneous or disconnected from the one universe.

But most people are disconnected from the universe in consciousness because they don't know anything about their real nature or the life system. And light cannot be taught to most of those who only knows darkness. Allegories are set forth for them, and they suffer in struggle while others do well.

#30
[quote author=ketchim link=topic=93675.msg596861#msg596861 date=1414702537]
Show me any reference to the sriptures on this.

Cause I will show you where they were commanded the OPPOSITE of what you wrote there......

Any reference material that teach you to write such misinformation will be welcomd : all of us can view it !

I await patiently ...
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Take into consideration all the threads in this forum on oppression in India. The chief religion in India is Islam.

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