Elijah Muhammad Lied

[quote author=TRINIDADDY link=topic=93675.msg596734#msg596734 date=1414666537]
Elijah Muhammed was a con-man and The Nation of Islam is in no way progressive
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pattycake should return like the prodigal daughter 

[quote author=pattycake link=topic=93675.msg596823#msg596823 date=1414691729]
[size=10pt]Jesus and Muhammad [/size]aren't the big co cheese in religion for nothing.
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AND order a Fatwa, right away : prodigal or nay  ;D

In  Islam , the prophets that follows are always greater  than  their  predecessor. EG,  The first prophet was Adam followed by Noah,  Abraham  Ishmael, Isaac , Yusuf  Jesus etc. The  next prophet was Mohamed , who was greater than all before him. However, the  prophet  Elijah  Muhamad  being the last was the greatest of them  all

Quote:You got it half right.

But if society reforms then religion won't be needed at all.

[i]but look!  Society ent reform and religion still dying

http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/12/29/t...-religion/

Quote:By now, it’s clear that religion is fading in America, as it has done in most advanced Western democracies.

Dozens of surveys find identical evidence: Fewer American adults, especially those under 30, attend church — or even belong to a church.  They tell interviewers their religion is “none.” They ignore faith.

Since 1990, the “nones” have exploded rapidly as a sociological phenomenon — from 10 percent of U.S. adults, to 15 percent, to 20 percent. Now they’ve climbed to 25 percent, according to a 2016 survey by the Public Religion Research Institute.

That makes them the nation’s largest faith category, outstripping Catholics (21 percent) and white evangelicals (16 percent).  They seem on a trajectory to become an outright majority.  America is following the secular path of Europe, Canada, Australia, Japan, New Zealand and other modern places.  The Secular Age is snowballing.

[quote author=Kwami link=topic=93675.msg724913#msg724913 date=1483666421]
In Islam , the prophets that follows are always greater than their  predecessor.
EG, The first prophet was Adam followed by Noah,
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Adam got Eve : Noah got an Ark......who was greater ? 

In Hinduism, the prophet that follow is always an Incarnate of him predecessor.

[quote author=mapoui link=topic=93675.msg724915#msg724915 date=1483710458]
http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/12/29/t...-religion/
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Snoopster would love that Link !

He argued against atheism BUT was an anti theist

I argued you have to have FAITH/ Iman to believe in miracles :

Link argues young people discern that it’s dishonest to claim to know

supernatural things that are unknowable !!

and if unknowable then not knowable which dos not exists in reality.  if it exists it is knowable.

all religion as we have know then is nonsense..a dangerous  waste of time.  why dangerous..just look at the consequences of religion and how long its been going on.  the human wreckage is incalculable.

there is no logic to it..when all the gods...good gods mind you.. produce so much damage