Players blame WICB!

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players forming new union
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If that is the case, all these players will be out of work (IPL, Big Bash included) for the next 2-3 years minimum.

Bravo will be  Kerry Packer of the Windies


He will pay players to play in his own league

[quote author=The Captain link=topic=93432.msg594497#msg594497 date=1413565655]
Bravo will be  Kerry Packer of the Windies


He will pay players to play in his own league
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He will make more music videos and employ the players as his sound and video technicians, dancers, drivers, cleaners etc. ::LOL::

[quote author=Goog Lee link=topic=93432.msg594484#msg594484 date=1413564135]
Bravo and the players want their cake and eat it too.

When things are going in their favor and WIPA battling for them, they want WICB only to deal with WIPA.

When things are not in their favor, they want to deal directly with WICB cause they think WIPA is screwing them.  And they complain to WICB to ask for help to "fix" WIPA!!

hahahahahahahahahahahahhahaha!!

I don't think anyone can write a better comedy script!!!

::LOL:: ::LOL:: ::LOL:: ::LOL:: ::LOL:: ::LOL:: ::LOL:: ::LOL::
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stop yuh nonsense  chat googley ah china man.  > > > >

you always chatting anti democratic, anti ordinary people crap.  who the hell are you some sort of prince up there on high.  are you not some kind of working man too..from a working class family ::confused:: ::confused::

Empire of Bravo

[quote author=mapoui link=topic=93432.msg594504#msg594504 date=1413566385]
stop yuh nonsense  chat googley ah china man.  > > > >

you always chatting anti democratic, anti ordinary people crap.  who the hell are you some sort of prince up there on high.  are you not some kind of working man too..from a working class family ::confused:: ::confused::

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Listen Maps.  Googs is quite entitled to his opinions.  On this one he has a point.

I am a union lawyer.  I represent unions.  I will always stand with workers asserting their rights.  But the workers have to assert their rights in the proper way, the legal way.

Here the players do not have standing to take the actions they are taking.  I'm sadden to say this but its is true.  They ought to have sought out an experience reputable labour lawyer and receive independent legal advice before doing anything.  They haven't done so and now all hell could break loose.  They may very well be the authors of their own misfortunes.

[quote author=mapoui link=topic=93432.msg594504#msg594504 date=1413566385]
stop yuh nonsense  chat googley ah china man.  > > > >

you always chatting anti democratic, anti ordinary people crap.  who the hell are you some sort of prince up there on high.  are you not some kind of working man too..from a working class family ::confused:: ::confused::

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what the fork you talking about??? 

The problem lies with the Union and the workers...NOT the employers!!  Why should the employer suffer because of that??

Having rights and abiding by rules are two damn different things!!!!!!!!

[quote author=Snoopster link=topic=93432.msg594507#msg594507 date=1413566749]
Listen Maps.  Googs is quite entitled to his opinions.  On this one he has a point.

I am a union lawyer.  I represent unions.  I will always stand with workers asserting their rights.  But the workers have to assert their rights in the proper way, the legal way.

Here the players do not have standing to take the actions they are taking.  I'm sadden to say this but its is true.  They ought to have sought out an experience reputable labour lawyer and receive independent legal advice before doing anything.  They haven't done so and now all hell could break loose.  They may very well be the authors of their own misfortunes.
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and I tell you that nutten is written in stone.  and if the 'proper' way is a straightjacket the people in whatever collective have a right ultimately to go outside of it and create new forms of dealing with their issues.

who make the proper way anyway..what was the popular input ::confused::

let legislation deal with what the people do later on.  but the people in popular action in response to their needs is ground level precedent setting action

maps is thinking this is the massa against the cotton pickers

[quote author=mapoui link=topic=93432.msg594510#msg594510 date=1413567771]
and I tell you that nutten is written in stone.  and if the 'proper' way is a straight jacket the people in whatever collective have a right ultimately to go outside of it and create new forms of dealing with their issues.

wh make the proper way anyway..what was the popular input ::confused::

let legislation deal with what the people do.  but the people in popular action in response to thior needs is ground level precedent setting action
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The proper way is what the players themselves have agreed to in writing.  It's call the collective bargaining agreement (CBA).  The terms of the CBA says that the WICB can only deal with WIPA and no other entity or individual. 

The CBA, and the labour laws which govern the parties, also say that if the players have a grievance or quarrel with WIPA then they have to bring the matter before an arbitrator for adjudication.  The Board is not a party to this dispute.  It's between the players and their Union WIPA.