Yochanan Gordon: When Genocide is Permissable... and the Story of Esther

http://mondoweiss.net/2014/08/yochanan-g...sible.html


Webmasters Comment!  Michael Riviero:

Quote:This is such a completely, thoroughly abhorrent concept that I almost do not know where to begin; because to embrace genocide as the right and justified answer in the situation between the Israelis against the Palestinians, it becomes a justified solution toward the elimination to minority populations everywhere.

Hitler (so we are told) thoroughly believed that genocide of Jews, Gypsies, and homosexuals was absolutely the right and moral thing to do.

Moral and spiritual people around the world condemned these practices as thoroughly horrific and inhuman, as well they should, and as we in the 21st century should be roundly condemning the genocide which has been visited upon the Palestinian people by the Israeli government.

Advocating genocide against ANYONE is like putting lipstick on a pig; no matter how fancy the ideological clothing or makeup you put on an abhorrent concept like this, at the end of the day, it is still a pig of an idea, and should be treated as such by thinking people.

Quote:Reprint of Yochanan Gordon’s “When Genocide is Permissible” (Updated)
Mondoweiss Editors on August 1, 2014 108

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Earlier today the Times of Israel published the article “When Genocide is Permissible” by Yochanan Gordon. They have since taken it down but we are republishing it here as representative of part of the discourse in the American Jewish community. According to Gordon’s bio at the Times of Israel his father is the founder of The Five Towns Jewish Times in Nassau County, NY which is “committed to showing the best of our Orthodox Jewish community, while reflecting reality.” The article is still posted there.

Update:

The article has been taken off the The Five Towns Jewish Times website with this explanation:

    An article that was posted earlier today on our website dealt with the question of genocide in a most irresponsible fashion.  We reject any such notion or discussion associated with even entertaining the possibility of such an unacceptable idea.

    The piece should have been rejected out of hand by editors but escaped their proper attention.  We reject such a suggestion unequivocally and apologize for the error.

Gordon has reportedly ended his twitter account, citing security concerns. He has now also issued an apology for the article, but he doesn’t seem to get it:

    I wish to express deep regret and beg forgiveness for an article I authored which was posted on 5TJT.com, Times of Israel and was tweeted and shared the world over.

    I never intended to call to harm any people although my words may have conveyed that message.

    With that said I pray and hope for a quick peaceful end to the hostilities and that all people learn to coexist with each other in creating a better world for us all.

When Genocide is Permissible by Yochanan Gordon

Judging by the numbers of casualties on both sides in this almost one-month old war one would be led to the conclusion that Israel has resorted to disproportionate means in fighting a far less- capable enemy. That is as far as what meets the eye. But, it’s now obvious that the US and the UN are completely out of touch with the nature of this foe and are therefore not qualified to dictate or enforce the rules of this war – because when it comes to terror there is much more than meets the eye.

I wasn’t aware of this, but it seems that the nature of warfare has undergone a major shift over the years. Where wars were usually waged to defeat the opposing side, today it seems – and judging by the number of foul calls it would indicate – that today’s wars are fought to a draw. I mean, whoever heard of a timeout in war? An NBA Basketball game allows six timeouts for each team during the course of a game, but last I checked this is a war! We are at war with an enemy whose charter calls for the annihilation of our people. Nothing, then, can be considered disproportionate when we are fighting for our very right to live.

Quote:he sad reality is that Israel gets it, but its hands are being tied by world leaders who over the past six years have insisted they are such good friends with the Jewish state, that they know more regarding its interests than even they do. But there’s going to have to come a time where Israel feels threatened enough where it has no other choice but to defy international warnings – because this is life or death.

Most of the reports coming from Gazan officials and leaders since the start of this operation have been either largely exaggerated or patently false. The truth is, it’s not their fault, falsehood and deceit is part of the very fabric of who they are and that will never change. Still however, despite their propensity to lie, when your enemy tells you that they are bent on your destruction you believe them. Similarly, when Khaled Meshal declares that no physical damage to Gaza will dampen their morale or weaken their resolve – they have to be believed. Our sage Gedalia the son of Achikam was given intelligence that Yishmael Ben Nesanyah was plotting to kill him. However, in his piety or rather naiveté Gedalia dismissed the report as a random act of gossip and paid no attention to it. To this day, the day following Rosh Hashana is commemorated as a fast day in the memory of Gedalia who was killed in cold blood on the second day of Rosh Hashana during the meal. They say the definition of insanity is repeating the same mistakes over and over. History is there to teach us lessons and the lesson here is that when your enemy swears to destroy you – you take him seriously.

Esther and he Persian Jews vengefully and unnecessarily carried out a massive genocide...a fact that is hushed up and spun a million ways but still cannot hide that massive ancient crime, no different from what the Jews do now in Gaza.

that is the fact and point for us currently in the Story of Esther...that almost every piece of literature encountered on the story of Esther attempts to hide.

the story of Esther is a sickening story when it is properly understood..just like current Jewish behavior in the world. that story exposes the Jewish nature that has not change in more than 2000 years.  what the Jews did then they still do now.  its like they have walked out of the pages of history straight into the modern world with not so much as a bath!

what is the difference for instance between Zippi Livni or Veronica Nuland and Esther ::confused::  none that I can see

The Holocaust is also a made up story ! 

be careful!  such denial is still fraught with danger