Gotham Stakes Tomorrow..Aqueduct! Who Against Uncle Sigh!?

mapoui · 02-28-2014, 09:03 PM · 1 person reading this discussion

#11
I will box them in the super and tri

#12
wait up.  hold on.  I ent finish with all ah dem yet

#13
i Will keep checking here

#14
now look at this here!

I was just dumping on Noble Causeway as sire but I did not take the time to see in his progeny that his best son was the second favourite in this race...SAMRAAT

so there are 2 Noble Causeways in this race, the one entry.. 1 and 1a.  so you get 2 for the price of one.  bet 1 and you get the one entry.  and the 1a Samraat has won all four races it has run.

but look at this also:  I said the favourite Uncle Sigh has a very good pedigree.  and that sire line on the favourite Indian Charlie is the sire of the mother of Samraat.  so if there are doubts about Noble Causeway as a sire and his son Samraat has won all his races..Samraat's quality could in fact have come from his mother not his father

#15
note this:
Uncle Sigh:

Indian Charlie from In Excess.. from Siberian Express.. from Caro.

that's his sire line , 4 generations.  goes back to Nothern Dancer of the main sires in the pedigree of horse in north america.  it is a very strong line and it is very green.  if ever Uncle Sigh is put on the turf you can bet him  with confidence for he has a very strong grass pedigree.  in fcat he should be stronger on grass that on dirt

but in addition Uncle Sigh's mother is:

Cradle Song..a very good broodmare.  her foals have all  done well..or most have and some excellently

Cradle Song's sire is pine Bluff, from Danzig and Northern Dancer..

Cradle Song's mother is Happy Tune from A P Indy and Hum Along.  Hum Along's Parents are Fappiano from Mister Prospector from Native Dancer.

That Native Dance line into Mister Prospector and Fappiano is probably the best pedigree line in north america and one of the best anywhere.

then there is also A P Indy in here from Seattle Slew from Bold Reasoning from Bold Ruler is also close to the best there is

which is why I said that Uncle Sigh is very well bred.

now with Samraat all we have is the mothers line which is:

Little Indian Girl..from Indian Charlie..IN Excess..Siberian Express..Caro.

Little Indian Girl is a good successful Dam, expressing this Indian Charlie lines power.  but we have Noble causeway on top and I don't really trust him to express the Giant's causeway, Storm Cat, Storm Bird Northern Dancer lines power

yet we must respect Samraat's 4 consecutive wins until we see the racing form and try to judge the quality of those 4 races.
in fact I just discovered 2 of those races to be the Damon Runyon stakes as a 2 year old and the Withers which is a graded stakes race.  I will put it up as soon as I find it

here is a pedigree database..the one I use the most
http://www.pedigreequery.com/

#16
in that database you can get all the information on all those horses and judge their quality accurately

#17
[size=18pt]ok Doorsra..judge fuh yuhself.  the same 2 horses  Samraat and Uncle Sigh hooked up before..February first..this very month 4 weeks ago and look what happened..in the Withers Stakes grade 3..a prep race for the Kentucky Derby[/size]


http://www.kentuckyderby.com/prep_races/2014/withers

#18
Nice work boss, you save me some time and effort, Samraat it is to beat uncle again

#19
this is the Damon Runyon from last year

#20
This is a good horse made all easily

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