Was Kallis better than Sobers?

[quote author=ketchim link=topic=86372.msg540897#msg540897 date=1388179842]
He was knighted for his services to cricket in 1975. 

The year Kallis was  Born !  [/quote]

.... Which I find makes it all the more difficult to compare players from a different era despite similarities !!!

Calypso ,

Cricket has certainly evolved with world progress !

from travel by Sea to travel by Air ...

Zero protection to new look England helmets , arm guards , thigh pads ...

Bats are now thicker , lighter and almost like a magic wand !

4 TEST nations are now 9...hence more than double the amount of games per annum to compete...

so many variables to factor in when comparing  !

Why are we still having this discussion ? Certain things  are a given and one of them is that Sobers is , was and will always be the best all rounder ever in cricket.
As a matter of fact ,  him  is the best cricketer ever .. 

I don't see that Kallis was even a better bowler than Sobers.  no way!

the difference as a bowler was that Sobers was a match-winning bowler as well.  Sobers could take the ball and run through a batting line up and set up a win or achieve one.  I never saw Kallis do that with the ball.

sobers did that with bat and ball...

my choice is Sobers on all levels...

and I dont like Kallis anyway.  when the going got tuff Sobers got going.  I dont know about Kallis in that regard.  how many times he saved RSA or won a game for them when the going got ruff with bat or ball?

to me Kallis was like Gavaskar. he may even be a better accumulator that Gavaskar was but that is what he is accumulator.

Sobers was a master...a batting standard of defence, consolidation and attack from in front or in rear-guard.

Sobers was arguably the best of his generation. Kallis was a slow and solid accumulator, Sobers was pure art.

Revs numbers lie to rass when it comes to Kallis bowling vs Sobers bowling.

look at this allyuh: 

I will give Kallis bat and ball and this RSA side side against this west indian side led by Ramdin, sans Gibbo as coach and Sammy anywhere nearby.  the side would be Ramdin captain, Sobers, Holder, Roach, Rampaul, Shilly before Narine but only just...shive, lil Bravo, Edwards, Gayle, Simmons.

{I considered Sarwan but he is so out of sorts it looks like he is done for good}

and with this side, batting at number 6 with shive at 5 etc.,  Sobers would bowl down Kallis for little.. and beat his bowling all over the place... in south africa or in the west indies.  Sobers would take this west indies silly tail, put some iron in its backbone, make dem score runs and runs in deh wiyah.

allyuh serious!  Sobers made Holford score record partnership when he had never come close to anything of the sort previously.  Sobers make Hall bat 90 minutes as last man in to save a test match at QPO.  Sobers bat on a cracked and crumbling hell hole at Sabina and punished england and very nearly pulled off an astonishing win...

yes that was Sobers..instilling into rabits courage and steel to defy the gods and win or save games.

ALLYUH EVER EVEN SEE KALLIS COME CLOSE TO ANYTHING OF THE SORT

THAT'S WHAT I WOULD DO TO PROVE THE UNTOUCHABLE GREATNESS OF SOBERS...PICK HIM WITH THIS WEST INDIES TEAM AND I BET HE WOULD TRANSFORM IT INTO A WINNER. 

thats right..a winner.  and I would bet large sums on it too

[size=18pt]weh reverend? 

wat do your numbers say about my speculation there Rev?

it wud be wood for Kallis an' dem...in heaps an' bundles..truckload[/size]



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Quote:Six days TEST match with a rest day in between.

8 balls per over instead of 6

No helmets or arm guards

Travel by Boat instead of Airplane.

Stay at " coloreds" only motels instead of 5 star luxury hotel...

et cetera , et cetera

Some things are just NOT quantifiable ! 

so di'ze how you sum up and look at the era diffs ::confused::

here is a way to transcend them bettah.  answer:  is lillee old or modern school?

if Lillee, by speed, quality and greatness as a player qualifies as modern ask him between Sobers and kallis ::confused:: 

I would love to hear his ansah. 

I think I know exactly what he would say, especially after the wood he had to load up after his confrontation with Sobers as a young bowler, all extreme speed and power.. and Sobers as older, on his way out!

Quick question...Can Kallis score all those runs without a Helmet and bouncer restrictions???

[quote author=Babulall link=topic=86372.msg541067#msg541067 date=1388281767]
Quick question...Can Kallis score all those runs without a Helmet and bouncer restrictions???
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Also not to take anything away from his greatness, but Kallis sometimes plays horribly slow innings, as in not exactly a team player in that way. He played such an innings vs England where he got fifty odd where SA haad to force a result. It was painfully slow.