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07 Feb 2013 18:58 #121627
by Rev Al
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* A 50 test average is viewed as a reasonable benchmark for greatness!
* So it is reasonable to use scores over fifty in any definition of batting consistency.
* And dont forget the conversion rate guage---it pertains to fifties that are converted into hundreds.
RE: THE CONSISTENCY OF SHIV, TENDULKAR, PONTING & DRAVID
Let's check the batting consistency of these 4:
36.5%...Tendulkar's consistency---51 100 + 66 50s in 320 innings
35.8%...Ponting's consisteny---41 100s + 62 50s in 287 innings
35.3%...Shiv's consistency---27 hundeds + 61 50s in 249 innings
34.6%...Dravid's consisency---36 100s + 63 50s in 286 innings
In terms of scores over fifty as a % of innings played---those 4 batsmen---all with averages over 50---their batting consistency was pretty close---the range was 34.6% to 36.5%
RE: CONVERSION RATE
Do the calculation and you'll find that Shiv needed to convert at least 4 more fifties inorder to have a 35% conversion rate---Viv Richards had a 35% conversion rate.
Rev
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07 Feb 2013 19:11 #121628
by ketchim
He ran out of Partners....bet he has the most not outs....
Sachin , Ricky and Rahul had the benefit of a supporting cast !
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07 Feb 2013 21:29 #121658
by Rev Al
Ketchy:
Did you know that Shiv has the most NOT OUTS between 70 and 99 ?
Shiv has 9 not outs between 70 and 99; the next closest is SWaugh--he has 5.
Ponting 3; Dravid 3.
And check this---Tendulkar has zero not outs between 70 and 99.
By the way, Shiv also has 2 not outs in the 80s and 2 not outs in the 90s.
If Shiv were able to convert 4 of his 9 not outs between 70 and 90---if he had not run out of partners---his conversion rate would be 35% instead of 31%.
Oh well! Shiv's NOT OUTS have helped him get to a 51.67 test average.
Rev
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13 Jun 2013 04:00 #141162
by vest007
I don't know whether Shiv was better than Sachin... but I can say for sure that Shiv was a better batsmen, while playing against quality opposition. A large number of Sachin's 100s were against weak teams such as Bangladesh, Zimbabwe and NZL (when they were weak, way back in the 1990s).
Also Shiv was better while batting against quality pace bowling (McGrath / Akram.etc).
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13 Jun 2013 04:16 #141164
by thirdman
Shiv is definitely one of the greatest batsmen in the history of the game, but I think the comparison cannot be done. They've scored runs against different teams in different conditions. I player you forgot to mention is Brian Lara. He was an excellent player. Please post the comparison of his stats with all of the above. I'd love to see that.
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