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2nd Test: India v England at Visakhapatnam

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18 Nov 2016 09:13 #327048 by ketchim

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18 Nov 2016 17:16 #327112 by Ashton
India are on top. And the track isn't doing as much as a few others have. Long road ahead for England, India must be patient.

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18 Nov 2016 21:04 #327126 by Mail

Well that is quite kind of you to understate the shit we are in just now!

It is now on the shoulders of Stokesy and Jonny to scrape us out of this predicament and great teams can do that and I believe we could be  a great team.

Struggling to say awake at 2:04am to catch at least an hours play.

Come one you England!

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19 Nov 2016 06:20 #327129 by Mail
We will do well to manage a draw here.

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19 Nov 2016 13:50 #327168 by dillinger10
It looks like England will need to bat out four and a half sessions to eek out an unlikely draw. They are really going to need something big from both Cook and Root.

Duckett's technique against spin  ::dead:: ::dead:: Oof. There is no way he can be successful at the Test level with that type of technique. No chance. Going forward, even if you were to replace him, the only other available bat is Jos Buttler - who has played just one red ball match over the last year. Not ideal. Though I do think adding an extra right handed bat to the middle order is needed.

This was the first time I have seen Jayant bowl. What a beautiful action.

Also a thing of beauty was Jimmy's delivery to dismiss Pujara. ::love::

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19 Nov 2016 15:42 #327182 by ketchim
Trent Boult ball to Sarfraz took the off ...and left the bails on middle and leg

Unbelieveable swing bowling by these chaps !

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19 Nov 2016 20:10 #327196 by Mail
Dilly

I believe you were a great advocate for Duckett and I certainly was not for his technique.

He is very Hughes like and stepping away, making room but that could be corrected.

Making a debut in the subcontinent is a tough ask, especially when one's technique is not tight and you are of little patience.

I would stick with him as he ahs potential although I would have preferred him on A Tours first.

Not sure why I cannot view your video.

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19 Nov 2016 21:02 #327199 by dillinger10
I believe it was Athers who mentioned on commentary that Test cricket exposes a players weakness in short order. No doubt, making your debut in the subcontinent will exacerbate any deficiencies against spin! Perhaps he can have a long sit down with Ben Stokes who has shown considerable improvement against spin.

Duckett has two things in his favour: His attack minded nature helps to balance out the steadiness at the top with Cook and Hameed, and England have shown a willingness in recent years to give a player a decent run in the side before cutting bait.

I do think it is asking a lot to expect him to tinker with his technique mid-series. But he is going to have to find a way to get his head moving toward the ball. As it is, his natural instinct is to move his front foot outside leg stump while keeping his head over his back foot. His bat is nowhere near his pad, its not in a straight line and he ends up throwing his bat forward while exposing all three stumps.

As such, England have somewhat of a tough decision to make. Do they place a greater importance on giving Duckett the experience in the hopes he can develop and improve or on winning the series? If they believe that Duckett is the answer at number four, then I think it is only fair to stick with him.

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19 Nov 2016 22:19 #327200 by Mail
I am not sure I subscribe to this emphasis on over aggression in test Cricket but I recognise the need to have a mixture of tempo.

A flawed technique has to be addressed and no best time when facing an attack that exposes failings and you are in the midst of battle where a success can spur you on.

It is quite simple, he need to hold his line and not make so much room and understand getting to the pitch enables him to work the ball.

Once that is done he will become more fluent.

Halo found himself in the same predicament and lost his game completely.

Test Cricket is just that, a test, and you have to set your stall out for the long haul.

I am no Duckett fan, like you, but he got to this stage on merit so he should be afforded a run.

Learning on the job is part of the process and Dockett himself, at the PCA, outline his 'poor' technique.

You will recall when Phil Hughes came to Middlesex he rolled off  a few consecutive centuries in rapid time and was called into the test squad scored some runs and then found out.

Sadly his premature death came  at a time when he was due to be recalled to the Test team.

I would think Halo has now lost his spot to Hameed.

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20 Nov 2016 05:15 #327203 by TRINIDADDY
England vs India just got intense.

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