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05 Nov 2016 15:54 - 06 Nov 2016 13:05 #326028
by dillinger10
Given the two recent series in the subcontinent, I thought it would be timely to see how the major Test sides have fared against spin since 2015. I was finally able to gain access to the data I needed and parse everything to put into a neat table.
Overall vs spin since 2015
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Overall vs right-hand spinners (both off-spinners and leg spinners)
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And then broken down further...
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South Africa have really struggled against spin, although a large part of that was the horrific series against India. England's numbers will probably look a whole lot worse by years end.
West Indies have struggled most against slow left-armers with Herath causing the most damage (15 wickets at an average of 16.13).
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05 Nov 2016 19:20 #326050
by ketchim
matters not Avg and SR differential is not worth the effort to detemine
IF Leggies are more expensive than Offies .
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05 Nov 2016 20:50 #326059
by ketchim
I would not conclude that Leggies leak more runs versus Offies.
marginal as well for wkts. per innings.
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05 Nov 2016 22:49 #326066
by Mail
Dilly,
Is there an error as the thread said since 2015 but tne lead post says 2013!
Does that change anything?
With numbers and your general cricketing expertise what are our thoughts about batsmens' effectiveness gains spin?
Many thanks.
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06 Nov 2016 11:16 - 06 Nov 2016 11:21 #326100
by dillinger10
Good eye, Mail. Yes, it should have read since 2015. I have gone ahead and updated the original post to reflect this. Thanks.
One of the (many) things I believe DRS has changed for the better is bringing back finger spinners (especially left-arm orthodox) into the game. Rangana Herath is a great example of this. In the first six years of his career, 19% of his Test wickets were taken by lbw, but this has risen to 27% in the years since the introduction of DRS. With the recent changes to increase the umpires call zone, this number will surely rise further.
As to your question, I believe the best players are those that rotate the strike and are not just looking to survive. They manipulate the field, get off strike and never allow the bowler to settle. Their aggressiveness also helps to remove those fielders in close. I thought Ben Duckett was the only English batsman to do this in the second Test against Bangladesh. One shot I would like to see the English batsman eliminate during the forthcoming series against India is the back foot cut. I'd much rather the batsman look to play a punch shot instead. And as always, foot movement is crucial. Look to come forward first as you can always pick the length and go back.
Hope all is well with you. Looking forward to the upcoming series with India, though concerned with the makeup of England's batting lineup. It's too left-handed heavy for my liking.
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06 Nov 2016 14:05 #326143
by dillinger10
In an effort to make up for my inability to differentiate between 2013 and 2015, I went ahead and parsed the data since 2013. At least something good come from my poor proofreading skills.
Overall vs all spinners since 2013:
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