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"Greek Fiyah" Quick..Get the Vaseline!

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14 Feb 2012 10:14 #75449 by mapoui

when will yu start?

it is contradictory to speak negatively of the very thing you must do and achieve.

I told you already that there is ocntent, laws, rules, natural, social, you are not aware of and which do not factor into your analysis.

yu shud get into ideology that explains society based on actual proven fack,  of how things actually go to help you find full understanding and the way out of this mess

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14 Feb 2012 10:17 #75450 by Nargis

theres no way out. stop being delusional

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14 Feb 2012 10:28 #75451 by mapoui
well thats you way so gwaan with yu bad self.  I am not there with you. you make no sense at all and for that i have to leave yu alone.

I cant and wont go along with that perspective.  I know better! its pure nonsense, weak-knee, surrendering nonsense.

society did not get to this stage with that kind of attitude.  the churches used to burn people at the stake for scientific ideas that contradicted its doctrine.

did that stop anybody or anything?

its only yu say die when life demands a fight.  that is how society get to this point,..by battling for truth and social advance.  yu stand on the shoulders of titans.  the very life you live was made possible by such humans.

and now yu spit in the faces of all those who, regardless of danger did their work, which work now underpins society.

yu live like there is a way out...like you will live forever and not die one day in any goddam case.  so what yu living for then..to walk into your grave with your big house strapped on your back

go long with yu bad self.  I see there is nothing in your corner really, that helps anythng forward

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14 Feb 2012 11:09 - 14 Feb 2012 11:20 #75455 by mapoui
to clarify:  I do not recommend that yu go out into the streets and march.  I do not recommend that yu go join radical groups.

I do not recommend that yu go out onto the streets and shout!

I recommend no specific action on your part save that you come to know the truth, develop your intellect and know what the possibilities are for social progress..that yu come to know that it is possible for the majorarity postin to prevail and how that can accomplished..and get out out your current defeated frame of mind.

it is crucial currently to know the story, history, how society, evolution functions.  yu need to know this, on your own, in your private head, set yur family up properly with truth, to keep in their private heads..but to know what to do as social forces configure and develp outside in the world. 

indeed to know what to do every single day and live accordingly quietly, among all the regualr things one must do, like go to work and keep ones job etc.

knowing allows yu to understand this..like no regular organisation, with a traditional structure is likely t be sincere in any social movement of he people.  all that is structurally traditioanl are likely to be infiltrated and copted against their stated principles and the ineterst of the people.

that is why for example the Occupy Movement refuses to set up a traditional, hierarchical organisational struture..and why the establishment constatly calls for them to do so, while elongating a program of demands.

well the establsihment calls for such a response from Occupy because they are past mayters of subverting organisations by taking over such organisatinal structures..bureaucracies really.

and for that very reason the occupiers will not elect an executive for they know if they do that they will be subverted.  so they focus on eduction of participants, so that all people can function independently, in need of no leadership fro anyone or group.

they are bent on producing the developed citizen, capable of understanding society fully, which citizen can coalsce and cooperate for social purposes, defuse and coalsce again whenevere necessary...no executive needed.

that is the teemendosu advance they have made.  they are demonstrating democratic society that is to come as a workable thing, bereft of any leadership as we now know leadership.

so I do not recommend that yu go join up  for joning up is dangerous if you do not know what you are doing.  the intelligent and knowledgable, watch as the situation develops, able to know what which is sincere and real social movement, from the fake and the dangerous... and what to do to assist such sincere movements when one has an opportunity to contribute while keeping oneself safe.

everything depends on ones determination to survive, ones smarts, the condinued development of ones smarts, ones knowledge of where nes chances lie and not to be fooled by lies, propaganda and so on.

one must know why people behave as they do... to be able to know what people will do before they do it...on which side everyone is on, regardless of what they say..and even sometimes what they do.  you come to know this by understandng class and class interest..that that is the way society functions, is driven. 

yu come to know associated personalities and why they behave as they do..and so predictive of their behaviour.  you know them from the time they open their mpouths and from what they say..their behaviour, the postitons they take on the issues.


that is life...yu know it already but you need to become far more sophisticated in that, married to the basic issues in the life we live and the human types it has produced...ncluding ourselves for we too are products of the very same situation.

all of this has become my way.  unfortunately the people are not there yet.  those who know must wait on the people, for when things get so tight the people canot help but see their reality and whay they have to do to survive. at that point when the people explode, one is prepared to sruvive in that too, and to come out and contribute to the proper developemt of any succeeding democracy.

so I am not calling on you to go do crazy things at all.  I am calling on you to stop defeating yourself, to end the defeatist talk and the support for the social enemy all such defeatism really is
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14 Feb 2012 11:37 #75460 by Kwami
Greeks are the laziest people in Europe but they live like kings on borrowed money . Maternity and vacation, leisure time is second to none. It is time to pay the piper
here is a country with no resources and in all respects should be a third world country , why should they live better than say Guyanese? Let them burn and loot cause , if it was black people doing this the  the death count would be high at the hands of the Babylon

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14 Feb 2012 11:41 #75464 by mapoui
COME ON kWAMI...YU CAN DO BETTER THAN DAT!

yuh shud not belabor and wallow in dem stereotypic things. 

whatever kernel of truth such prejudice may contain hides greater truth we have to know in order to win here

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14 Feb 2012 11:43 #75466 by Kwami
you asking me to be sorry for white people?

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14 Feb 2012 11:50 #75470 by Kwami
When the IMF was imposing austerity on third world countries for decades , where the fuck was the EUROPEANS ,  now the white countries are running cap  in hand begging for assistance from the BRIC countries . I say screw them, payback is a bitch

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14 Feb 2012 11:51 - 14 Feb 2012 12:08 #75471 by mapoui

asking yu to look out fuh yuhsef..and by extention we, us, ordinary folk of all colours who are those exposed here.

not that we are any better than greeks in the sense yu claim but because regardless we have to act in we best interest and save weself.

remember the way we all live has been encouraged by the status quo, set up an educational system and popular media saturation to create a coocon life, sheltered from reality, the consequences of which we now suffer.

we only did their bidding, lived like we were led to. we were bline fools and now the piper is indeed to be paid.  but how?

do we still have to pay those who led us here, caused all the problems and now intend to solve them again at our expense?

or do we pay the real price by embracing reality, truth... organising social democracy, cleaning up ourslves and the planet and proceeding, focused on the real question of existence:  HOW DOES HUMANITY SURVIVE INDEFINETLY IN AN EVOLUTIONARY UNIVERSE?
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14 Feb 2012 11:54 - 14 Feb 2012 12:10 #75472 by mapoui

austerity is still IMPOSED on the westindies!  even worse is to come for us.  this is harbinger of whats in store for us too.

it is not that our time is over and its now their  time to ketch.  dat is far, far, far, from the truth.

it is now their time to join us rather..so that all ah we ordinary folk are to ketch it.  thats the idea
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