[quote author=boom boom link=topic=63618.msg468504#msg468504 date=1356638950]
the big issue is not sammy's havin children with diiferent women. the issue is the man cant bat nor bowl
[/quote] fine but moral issues should be separated from cricketing issues ,but that Ketchem keeping harping on the child out of wedlock issue and paints a whole people with a broad brush
[quote author=ramesh link=topic=63618.msg468505#msg468505 date=1356639335]
fine but moral issues should be separated from cricketing issues ,but that Ketchem keeping harping on the child out of wedlock issue and paints a whole people with a broad brush
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a good captain and leader normally shows better self control.
Quote:[size=14px]Sammy can pray and repent for his sins but you are boasting about how many women you slept with. You are a hypocrite and even when a hypocrite repents , that is in self is hypocracyYou are not morally equipped to judge Sammy or any one else[/size]
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IF kETCHIM IS AH HYPOCRITE AGAIN...PURE NAKED HYPOCRITE.
he is prepared to take wood fuh his wuk bench, hoping by doing so he can dodge the greater wood for his overall hypocritical position on black men absent from homes deh shud occupy according to him with the mothers of their children
but he cant dance away from dat nidah. society is way more that just between his narrow confines. and people today shaking and breaking up all dat old bulls***.
dat same traditional one man one woman marriage is being shelled by long-standing experience. it cant last. there is some crazy average of what 12 years per marriage all through the western world.
single monogamous marriage is becoming endangered, at best considered an option for people who find such fit useful. there are advocacy groups gaining political traction fort total marriage freedom..including no marriage at all. all options on the table for such groups in western life..whatever people find happiness, safety and comfort in..even incest.
them things ketchim talking about long past. what exists is not good and people are looking without limit for alternatives that do in fact work. the whole of human history is under examination as source for possibilites....
open a thread fuh history...anthropology eh. we getting nowhere with 1 wuk bench and a planet load of monogamous marriage. you have an opion but you must make sure the world cares about it..or that it reflects some measure of what actually going on[/size]
a good captain and leader normally shows better self control.
[/quote] I agree but humans have lapses in judgement and they should be not condemmed for life
I noticed that Kwami listed the failures of Azzuradin and Cronje as captains.
They are humans and they all fell to temptations as is inclined to happen sometimes .' That hypocrite Ketchem should not stand on that high moral pedestal and pass judgement when in his own words proclaim about how many women he slept with
a good captain and leader normally shows better self control.
[/quote] Bill Clinton is still loved and even he made some mistakes in yielding to the flesh and I am surely not comparing Sammy to Clinton
the point is...if I know black men like myself to any useful extent Sammy paying for his children..all of them if he actually fathered them.
he has money now and that is what he will do is doing..unless of course the women want to jack him up in court and apply force and arbitration. then he have to fight back, to protect himself lest he gets screwed, stymied and unable to function as a man in the world.
so what do we call sammy taking care of his brood including wives and mothers?
I knew men in Trinidad growing up who had business: a bunch of taxis, delivery business, dis an dat business, never wuk fuh nobody and had 3-4 wives and children. they all had houses with their children paid for by the Man..and they were all faithful to THOSE MEN.. AND THEY ALL KNEW ABOUT EACH OTHER.
IN TRINIDAD THAT WAS NO BIG THING. IT HAPPENED ALL THE TIME.
again I state: all this bastardy business had its way specific to trindiad, and to all the terrirtories of the west indies. all west indo men were involved..are involved..Indo, Whites, Afros, Chinese, Potogee...ALLLLLLLL!
[quote author=ramesh link=topic=63618.msg468510#msg468510 date=1356640519]
Bill Clinton is still loved and even he made some mistakes in yielding to the flesh and I am surely not comparing Sammy to Clinton
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bill clinton bombed a lot of places but not nearly as much as bush and obama. I prefer bill getting blow jobs in office than straight-laced bush and obama bombing the freakin planet to bits :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry:
'Obama shud have a harem...and Michelle her own harem too. like Hillary did :tongue: :tongue: :tongue: :tongue: :tongue: dat shud mellow the skunt obama off, and stop the freaking drones and assassinations.
when the 'yahoo' call askin' him to bomb somewhere he would tell him ''look man call back yes...I busy with a pum pum here' :cheesy: :cheesy:
social change in the west indies is what will solve all that is problematic...
the west indian people must rise up sans leadership by any political party or organised group, chase away the governments. take power from the black elites and set up a democracy for the people, by the people, and run by them.
run by the people the west indies would be able to set the stage to unify the region, eliminate all forms of racism and social division..provide opportunity for all, to develop literate citizens who can protect and develop the democracy..the nation, a viable nationalism.
such a society would be able to address issues like fatherless children, marriage, the treatment of citizens by the state and the relationship of citizens to the state.
it makes no sense to speak of blac problems in the west indies in isolation of the totality of things