INDIA in the USA

ketchim · 02-26-2017, 05:08 PM · 2 people reading this discussion

#41
AND differentiate between Muslim and Chinese : WHILE he there  ::LOL::

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#44
[quote author=mapoui link=topic=108562.msg731416#msg731416 date=1488901769]
americans I know from personal experience they are not blind and stupid.
they know who is who in the world..just as good as anybody posting here
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You were doing fine until the bolded  >Sad


#45
going fine until the bolded.... 

I know americans who are aware of the world.  most who are not are clearly capable of becoming aware should they have the mid to do so

my extended family is full of americans.  not one stupid..not one.  all professional people,  all aware of the world.  to me they are typical enough

#46
Here is Bhadrakumar:
http://blogs.rediff.com/mkbhadrakumar/

Quote:Bigotry must be condemned – in India or America

There have been three recent incidents of attacks on Indians in the United States and it remains to be seen whether they are the manifestation of a “new normal”. A combustible mix is forming in America’s political economy.

The racial bigotry in that country is legion. Even an “African-American” president couldn’t make difference to the entrenched racial prejudice amongst white people against fellow countrymen with dark skin.

But what makes the current situation particularly dangerous is that there are important people who happen to hold positions of high authority in that country who wear their badge of racial bigotry with pride on their sleeve. No one other than Steve Bannon, President Donald Trump’s chief strategist in the White House and a permanent invitee to the National Security Council meetings, can be counted as one of them. The man apparently raved on TV shows repeatedly about a scurrilous novel characterising the archetypal Indian as “s***-eating” and as “turd-eater”.

When such third-raters and semi-literate fanatics hold powerful positions and are influencing the US’ immigration policies, the loud message going all around in the country is predictable. Unsurprisingly, “Get out of my country” has become a national slogan. It was the rant of murderers who attacked the hapless Indians in the recent incidents.

A certain national mood is building up in the US and unless and until the best and the brightest stand up and push back at it, the rising tide of racism may surge.

Secondly, there is also an economic dimension to what is happening. The Indian migrants have been on the whole a well-educated class of people and have done relatively well in their adopted country. Their affluence has apparently become an eyesore to the working class white American and to those who have lately dropped out of the middle class in the globalization era, who see the “foreigners” as imposters who have poached into their secure world and caused them and their families much hardship.

Of course, it is an irrational emotion, because globalization is bound to have losers. But it exists in the US today, and it may become more vociferous and belligerent under a presidency which won the mandate to rule the country by exploiting these very same complexes and socio-economic realities in contemporary American society.

In a manner of speaking, Trump is as awkwardly placed as Prime Minister Narendra Modi has been in our country to rein in fundamentalists who happen to be their respective “core constituency”. In the 2020 election, Trump will most certainly adopt similar campaign style that Modi chose in UP to whip up people’s baser instincts to garner votes. Succinctly put, a dialectic appears when demagoguery chooses to feed on bigotry.

Trump’s inaugural speech contained disturbing signs of such a phenomenon. In the civil war-like conditions building up within America’s political class in the recent period, state authority and rule of law begin to weaken. We are witnessing an extraordinary spectacle of the CIA undermining Trump and he in turn picking from Barack Obama’s copybook of insurrection to settle scores. Day by day, what began as a farce and a moveable feast to the senses is degenerating into a savage fight with tooth and claw.

Now, in this combustible mix, we also need to factor in that America is traditionally a very violent society. It is an unusual nation which made the cult of violence to vanquish the continent’s original inhabitants into the stuff of folklore. There is easy access to weapons, there is pervasive gun culture, and there is a track record of people reaching out for their guns at the drop of a hat.

All in all, therefore, Modi must speak up – just as he did with Australian prime minister. Modi may indeed turn out to be an ineffectual sparrow beating wings in the void. But Trump must nonetheless know we also have feelings and national pride, and we have an alike motto of “India First” in our foreign policy, too. After all, Modi runs a government that takes pride in putting the welfare of Indian Diaspora as above other concerns in the country’s diplomacy.

Of course, all this is putting the American lobby within our elite in a quandary – torn between loyalty to home and second home. They may plead helplessness by taking the easy route that the two Indians who lost their lives were “American citizens”, not Indian passport holders. But that’s sophistry with capital ‘S’.

#47
[quote author=mapoui link=topic=108562.msg731444#msg731444 date=1488908543]
my extended family is full of americans ...to me they are typical enough
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to me they would be offended hearing you EQUATING them :

WITH the majority ignoramus white trash like this murderous skunt  >Sad

YOU Mapoui, would be DISOWNED

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#48
YOU SEE...WHEN SOMEONE LIKE BHADRAKUMAR GOES ON AS HE DOES HERE, HE MUST BE ENLARGED, DISCUSSED, TAKEN APART AND PUT INTO PROPER CONTEXT...WHICH IS WHAT I TRIED TO DO

#49
Wrong Thread, Buddy ! open yuh own Comess... Tongue

"Even an “African-American” president couldn’t make difference to the entrenched

racial prejudice amongst white people against fellow countrymen with dark skin"

#50
[quote author=ketchim link=topic=108562.msg731450#msg731450 date=1488909490]
Wrong Thread, Buddy ! open yuh own Comess... Tongue

"Even an “African-American” president couldn’t make difference to the entrenched

racial prejudice amongst white people against fellow countrymen with dark skin"
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that's B'kumars opinion.  somebody tell you dat was what Obama was about...that he even cared ::confused:: ::confused::

what is the real state of racial relations in the USA ::confused::

Does B'kumar know ::confused::

and again I warn yuh rarse that what you call racism..and what B'kumar deals with as racism may not in fact be.  those reports covering the shooting in the MSM are not all that believable at all.

I pointed out that there is a full, complete  and well known context within which that shooting took place that has nutten to do with racism, but is a labor issue entirely..a class issue not racial at all.

go on with allyuh limited perspectives.  deh will get allyuh nowhere

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