Convoluted Ketchim! No Comment on Cooperative W.I CRicket

[quote author=TRINIDADDY link=topic=106776.msg718003#msg718003 date=1477590165]
TRINIDAD FOREVER.
USA USA USA.
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See the civil disobedience thread Under the Tree .

Meseret posted  ;D

Quote: So all progress depends on the unreasonable man. We need a world with more goofy, unreasonable Mapouis.

goofy ::confused:: ::confused:: ::confused::

Interesting.

so wat you think I have in mind man..tenks fuh printing it:

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Quote:To save the masses, co-operative labour ought to be developed to national dimensions and, consequently, be fostered by national means."

we mus' start somewhere..whatever leads in the right direction.  Corbyn talks a great cooperative game with the national resources behind his plan.  any business up for sale must be first sold to the workers..who can buy if it is feasible, financed by the government if necessary.

there is Marx's national means

[quote author=ketchim link=topic=106776.msg718005#msg718005 date=1477590653]
Guyana is close to half a century as a Co Operative !

and still cannot figure it out !

Cricket will end up in a similar disaster , if this concept is embraced !~
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nonsense!  I gave you sheldrake and morphic resonance...

what did he say.." teach a rat a new trick and rats in australia, everwhere pick it up, never having been taught that trick..yet they do.

we have even more..the direct experience of others as example and guide.

if it took Mondragon fifty years if shud take us much less time..unless we stupid and corrupt, and cant learn properly, like west indians ::LOL:: ::LOL::

Quote:Yet Marx said that they should nevertheless be developed. He was cynical and pessimistic, but still thought that isolated co-ops served a function. He said they were, quote, "a transformative force. Their great merit being that they practically show that the present system can be superseded by a beneficent system".

So he thought co-ops represented a kind of symbolic alternative; as a system driven by the needs of communities and not by profit, they served as way to inspire people. A way to get people thinking of practical and living example of alternative systems.

well of course!  this raises the debate to a real level, a truly useful level.

this is precisely why I say transform the cricket administration into a cooperative.  it can work, can be made to work.  everything is in place to allow it to work well.  all that is necessary is to form the coop and apply the rules, at the same time making available to all the information and courses that may be necessary for them to know what a coop  actually is and how to run it.

that would be an ongoing educational process for as long as it is necessary

DNA of the west indian is opposite to a  Co Operative !

So maintain the status quo BUT get rid of the current personnel .

and hope for the bess !!

[quote author=ketchim link=topic=106776.msg718010#msg718010 date=1477591574]
Precisely !  DNA of the west indian is opposite to a  Co Operative !

So maintain the status quo BUT get rid of the current personnel .

and hope for the bess !!
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the DNA of no one is opposed to survival.

how do you survive, how do you save the top heavy cricket if you dont make a playing field that levels out the weight ::confused:: ::confused::

the new adaptation/saving experience will add to your DNA what you never had before..if in fact you did not have it already

Quote:Guyana is close to half a century as a Co Operative ! and still cannot figure it out !

There's a good book called "The Cost of Regime Survival". It compares the development of Guyana and Trinidad over the last 100 years, and the different choices they made. It essentially shows how Trinidad pursued links with the US and UK whilst Guyana became their and the IMF's enemy. For every "right" decision Trinidad made, Guyana took the opposite approach, to disasterous effect.

Things will probably balance in the future, Trinidad going down, Guyana lifting itself up. That seems to be the way things go.

Quote:goofy. Interesting.

I mean from the perspective of the world, you are goofy and unreasonable. To me, these are good things.

Quote:    goofy. Interesting.


I mean from the perspective of the world, you are goofy and unreasonable. To me, these are good things.

yes..I understood.  I was just pullin' yuh leg! ::LOL:: ::LOL:: ::LOL::

[quote author=mapoui link=topic=106776.msg718013#msg718013 date=1477591879]
the DNA of no one is opposed to survival
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its not survival !

it being a # 8 rank versus being in the Top 3.

we survived in the basement last decade and a half.

even the Captain no longer feels pressure

players laugh when hooked for a boundary or a six

Batsmen look happy when they get out.

a Co Operative model : will not change that !

Quote:a Co Operative model : will not change that !

I doan agree..... :-[ :-[ :-[