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an audio lecture originally delivered in 1885 by Gerald Massey one of the greatest human intellects ever.

you all do not appear to realize that humanity evolved..no doubt about it...and that our path to this day involved a period of ignorance and bare animal survival, and that in the process we had to develop tools and speech as precursors to our development into technological people....

we had to develop speech and did so by first developing more primitive means of communication like gesture language and dance...the stuff of pantomime and party.  we dance for pleasure today but we danced first dance of survival of the group/species......

you see nowhere else in the whole world, do we find any artifact, information of any kind to even suggest that this process in the evolution of humanity, took place anywhere but in africa..and that the people who did it were anything but black.  I will not belabor this point and invite all of you to point out differently..and to determine what it means in actuality,then as now..by and with as much proof as you can muster

all the information is there...all the facts..the languages, the dance and pantomime, the writing on the wall literally.  and once that problem is solved what?  it tells us our story, that we all we believe to the contrary is wrong and that we re-organize our perspective, end prejudices for they have no factural base in human reality, come to the truth that we must survive on this planet and move out..that that is our primary goal..that our evolutionary reality establishes our purpose, why we are here and how we must live in order to go on, that we have a destiny we must achieve, glorious, tragic, or both.

the above lecture investigates, digs deep into how we learned to think/talk and proceed..and where this took place by one of the most exhaustive, long term and incredible and not really individual scholary projects of all time by Gerald Massey.  Massey had supporters and helpers that included the likes Dr Samuel Birch, Dr Albert Churchward.

here is wikipedia on on Massey:

Quote:From about 1870 onwards, Massey became increasingly interested in Egyptology and the similarities that exist between ancient Egyptian mythology and the Gospel stories. He studied the extensive Egyptian records housed in the Assyrian and Egyptology section of the British Museum in London where he worked closely with the curator, Dr. Samuel Birch, and other leading Egyptologists of his day, even learning hieroglyphics at the time the Temple of Horus at Edfu was first being excavated.

that by wikipeia is understating Massey's protean intellectual ability/achievements

Massey left a body of work that boggles to this day.  his books, lectures, poetry  are there for all to access.  Massey was also a Shakespeare scholar and poet but came from a most humble social origin..indeed the most humble of all beginnings.

but Massey has made a most basic contribution to human development by establishing for us all the outlines of our collective story and setting parameters for more research to organize our truth, to identify humanity to itself.

and to giggles and sketchim....

this is not about skin colour and race.  where I am concerned once upon a time it would have been.  but that time is long gone.  not at my age and in this time of human crisis.

both of you think this stage is some kind of joke and that the devil has not gathered the forces of death around the human species and we are a mere fraction away from extinction.

look around you 2 impse:  see Putin and Hillary chatting amiably laffing in the case of Putin,  about the military aces he has up his sleeve in response to Hillarys recent 'braggadoga' about the fact that Russia and China have 'not been made to pay for their defense of Syria, that they are evil and wicked in holding up progress on Syria, blocking such progress'

has any greater lunacy ever been spoken at any time ever before in the world between nations ::confused::

these 2 are fooling around with weapons, especially in the hands of the Russians that will break this planet apart, break it into little pieces.  this is unheard of.  they are not playing with toys..and now, in the current real world for the very first time we are discussing amargeddon like we talk about our preference in hamburger preparation: flame broiled or normally grilled, well done or rare

now is not the time for nonsense, fantasy, lies and nonsense about who is superior to whom.  now is the time for truth, to identify humanity, to know who we are,why we are the way we are in effort to save ourselves from ourselves  and to go on.  it is time to identify the real crazies, arrest them and lock them away, removed from the social power, end their lunatic economic and social system, so that whatever human sanity we still have may dominate and find expression in general survival

when I say black first, I mean that all people came from one source, that we have a truly unified history that tells us who we are and pouts our experience and all we are currently into full relief so that we are informed, clear about everything... so that we know and can make the proper survival choices

it is time for prolific but idiotic sketchim who dominates this board here to upright his rabid self and let the sanity he has demonstrated glimpses of along the way to dominate his perspective....

he has been leading everybody in wrong directions, 'muching-up' all that is wrong for ordinary people.  there is always an impse in the piece and here it is sketchim.

AT THIS STAGE THERE IS BUT ONE ANSWER FOR SOCIETY: 

IF FOR THE LONGEST WHILE WE HAVE HAD ELITIST SOCIETY, WITH A FEW AT THE TOP IN OWNERSHIP  OF EVERYTHING INCLUDING THE SOCIAL POWER.... AND AFTER UNTOLD THOUSANDS OF YEARS ALL IT HAS ACHIEVED IS THE CURRENT STATE OF THE WORLD, WITH THE HUMAN SPECIES ON ITS KNEES WITH ONLY THE PROSPECT OF WORSE TO COME AT THE HANDS OF THE MINORITY RICH.... HOW IN THE HELL CAN ELITIST POWER AND SOCIAL CONTROL BE OF ANY SOCIAL VALUE AT ALL ::confused:: ::confused:: ::confused::

it is of no value any longer, if we assume it was ever of any value, if we give such social organization any credit for any achievement at all  over time.  it is of no more social value at all and if we are to survive the social power must pass from the hands of the minority rich into popular control.

and the process of this passage must be as a result of action initiated by the people to take over society and to run society in the interest of all humanity..not just in the interest of a rich minority. 

all essential and necessary survival benefits would flow from such development and human survival would retreat from the brink at which it now exists into safety and threat of destruction by our own hands

there is no other positive alternative.  the last great progressive step out of human ignorance and immaturity is at hand:  the step to real and true democratic social organization by the people and for the people..all people.  a development that would make truth unthreatening for there would be but one social class in need of the truth, to apply for general human benefit..not minority class control picking and choosing 'truth' that suits its minority purposes and benefit at the expense of the rest

all but popular social organization is now a threat to human survival.  elitist social control is the single most deadly fact about current social organization. it is time global human society gets rid of its minority and parasitic elites whose systematic clashes and fight among themselves threatens us all..threatens the continuation of human existence.

it is time to consign Obama and the western elites, truly, absolutely atrocious and hideous people like the capitalist women..Janet Reno, Madeline Albright, Jeanne Kirpatrick, Condi Rice, Susan Rice, that Victoria Nuland woman, Angela Merkel and Hillary Clinton.... the very worst of an incredible flow of insane women, into the social prominence through the minority capitalist process that sifts the worst people out of the crowd..especially women... and allows them to rise to the top of capitalist society, with the vast negative consequences each and every one of those listed are responsible for.

popular democracy changes systematically eliminating all sets of social organizational processes that allow such people to rise up into the power.  and people like all those women will find themselves where they should be...in mental asylums receiving the psychiatric care they so desperately require.  popular control is a desperately needed requirement for social/human health on all levels... especially the mental level,  humanity is nuts after a paradigm of exploitation of man by man, ever since the break-up of ancient communal life.

it is time for us, for humanity to step into its development, its maturity, to take the next step in social evolution or die off.

that is where humanity is at this time,  has arrived at.  we must step into our opportunity, take our opportunity and the chances of existence,.  it is not as if we have a choice really.  it is do it or die.

so I don't know what the hell is in sketchims head relative to life..and in Giggles head.  but Giggles is not the problem here sketchim is..playing all kinds of stupid and backward racial games all the time..harkens us all to ignorance.  we must develop our critical capacities by considering life as a whole from our individual perspectives, informed by who we at this moment, are in all and every way, guided by self interest, class and even ethnic interests.

but the great solvent is reality which is a unity and the more truth we discover about reality the closer it brings all humanity together in the project of survival.  that is the point..to go forward with open mind.,..guided by who we are with the one need to survive and make life as safe as we can on any day we are still here.  and as reality is the the truth all we discover about it is bound to set us free, to bring us to one, the truth unified in our survival project.

there is nothing to fear in truth.  all we know is incomplete..our knowledge is always incomplete but we know that reality is truthful and contains all we need to make it.  so we must go forward in open mind and accept the truth we prove and where it leads

in the process we will clarify all religion and unify religion when we know where it came from and how we express it currently.  from what I know we have lost any contact we have had to origins of religion because of the way religion/history has been manipulated to reflect minority elitist interests.

get rid of elitist society and the whole truth of religion can once again be accessed and religion adjusted, once again representative of true and general human experience, satisfying and consistent with human survival.  no longer source of human dispute and division and racist causation and division

racism can be ended by truth whatever it turns out to be. once ones racial make-up is of no benefit as it is now, it would be to no ones interest to establish anything but truth to the story of human origins and make up.

it all depends on the economy and control of the wealth.  race divides people, makes it impossible for ordinary people to collectivize in the interest of ordinary people against our exploiters, our killers, our predators..those who feed off us

that would not be the case in a popular social control. ordinary people would be running society in its collective interest and such society generates the opposite routine social mores, deepens them in time to become part of our DNA..just as capitalist rapine and selfishness has found such expression after ages of exploitation and competitive at race for survival.

ppular democracy creates a space where truth is welcome, recognized as the essential component of survival that it is and incorporated as use value..basic and essential use value..truth, facts, not belief and pointless abstraction inconsistent with the reality we prove

someone send Maps a plane ticket to Afrika!  8)

[quote author=Goog Lee, P.I. link=topic=103368.msg685886#msg685886 date=1458833707]
someone send Maps a plane ticket to Afrika!  8)
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as I said next door..sketchim is the dangerous one.  Giggles is strictly lite weight ::LOL:: ::LOL:: ::LOL:: ::LOL:: ::LOL::

no plane he came by boat

[quote author=mapoui link=topic=103368.msg685899#msg685899 date=1458835406]
as I said next door..sketchim is the dangerous one.  Giggles is strictly lite weight ::LOL:: ::LOL:: ::LOL:: ::LOL:: ::LOL::
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dude, stop taking yourself so seriously!  no one else does!!  8)

[quote author=mapoui link=topic=103368.msg685863#msg685863 date=1458818357]
it is time for prolific but[size=10pt] idiotic Mapoui who dominates this board here[/size] to upright

[size=10pt]his rabid self[/size] and let the sanity he has demonstrated glimpses of along the way to dominate his perspective....
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he has been leading everybody in wrong directions[/size], 'muching-up' all that is wrong for ordinary people.
there is always an impse in the piece [size=10pt]and here it is MAPOUI[/size]
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excuse me ?

I am on the Pitch driving Wagons for World cup Cricket.

substitute yuh OWN name where you have mine.

and that would be the truth 


Lookit here man , go TOBAGO !