mapoui

in the mean time.  ::LOL::

list wat concerns ::confused::

I have no concerns...you must be dreaming!

Quote:I will give you a hint:  why did TD at one point refer to me as socialist

http://www.theguardian.com/global-develo...-125-a-day

Mapoui is the Marxist love-child of CLR James and Toussaint Louverture.

Quote:Mapoui is the Marxist love-child of CLR James and Toussaint Louverture.

tenks for the slap on my face delivered couched, in tongue in cheek..another ketchim under cover ::confused::..more like wifan/boquiesse, by stealth and subterfuge ::confused::
{but wifan boquiesse is a is an overbearing imposing forriner and not worth a mention really}

who here is announced and expresses even with a tincture of understanding about their reality... west indian reality and interconnection, and overall  collective social interest.. and real natural love we should all have for our home place and diverse people... commitment to its well being, preparedness to do what is possible on the day to the advance the cause..which may mitigate any mutual hostility of a historical nature among the diverse people that does not help forward motion but misdirects ::confused:: ::confused:: ::confused::

the way,manner and oftency with which the hostility pops up attest to our immaturity yet, still mired in childish hostility while the world isn't waiting. seems must ketch up fast, make up huge ground quickly for the consequences if not are dire.

but dat is jess my opinion...son of James Toussaint. and deh are long dead.  wat do I know

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who here is announced and expresses even with a tincture of understanding about their reality...
west indian reality and interconnection, and overall  collective social interest..
and real natural love we should all have for our home place and diverse people...
commitment to its well being, preparedness to do what is possible on the day to the advance the cause..
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Lemme reiterate : there is no CAUSE .

You are crusading for a non existent CAUSE ....

what is the cause that is no existent then ::confused:: 

describe!  then compare it to the what I actually said on this thread.

what is going here is a ridiculous statement and claim by shar li loo that  others posters took apart.  I never said a thing in response save to point out that the  posters did good work.

then you attacked and started talking about cause!  what effing cause you talking about relevant to this thread.

you talk like a man who keeps totally rabid company..and of course people can live according to what they know, their experience.  if you are not hanging out with rabidly racist white people who express egregiously on black people, you are advocating the genocide of people by Pharmageddon.

now you express rabidly on what you see as my cause claiming that black people do not care about any such thing because I am no longer an 'ordinary' person..another rabid position.

what the hell is it with you ::confused::

you are not in tune with the point of this thread..as if you have an agenda, popped  in here and start twisting the thread to your purpose rather than the purpose for

it  was started by malooney on a ridiculous premise that others took apart.  if you have agenda start a thread for it and see if anyone is interested.  then we may find out who really cares about your opinion on my cause...

empty drum make the most noise....

like a belly empty of solids but full of gyarse..suddenly challenged by solids makes a whole lot of noise..and smelly too

pheeeeeeeew! :: :: :: ::

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what is the cause that is no existent then ::confused:: 
then you attacked and started talking about cause!  what effing cause you talking about relevant to this thread.
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preparedness to do what is possible on the day to the advance [size=24pt]the cause[/size].
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Empty vessel Mapoui ? 

Quote: tenks for the slap on my face

That was a compliment. I myself am neo-Marxist. If you owned a convincing wig, I'd probably marry you.

Quote: He nevah went hungry : he never observe ramadan . he is never without , he is never discriminated against. He is never treated like a second class person : AND all these issues that creates say , a Martin Luther King

Radicalism is actually rarely caused by persecution, poverty or suffering. If that were so, the entire planet would be radical. Radicalism is caused by relative priviledge, travelling, relative comfort (the gift of being granted the time to think and contempolate), being caught between two or more societies, cultures or classes, and being forced into a position to be able to compare and contrast.

King wasn't a poor black man, his family was fairly wealthy. Gandhi was well educated and priviledged, Guevara was part Irish and a doctor, Napoleon was Corsican, Marx himself lived in England and was related to bankers, Bob Marley was half white, Wilberforce (instrumental in ending slavery) was a rich dude, Ho Chi Minh (Vietnamense independence) lived in England, Toussaint (revolution in Haiti) was son of a King, William Wallace (Scottish independence - Braveheart!) was a rich dude, Darwin (father of evolutionary theory and an abolishionist) was a son of doctors etc etc. All were outsiders forced into seeing the world from a more objective vantage point. And look at the lives of radical writers - Orwell, Wells, Steinbeck etc. They're rarely from the lower classes, always relatively comfortable and always caught between worlds.

Another example: in 1968, France was shut down...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/May_1968_events_in_France

...by university students and posh kids, people not tied to jobs or the working class. Only then did unions and workers jump on the bandwagon. And the “Arab Springs” were driven more by the under-employed well-educated than the poor.

Quote:what is the cause that is no existent then

He means there is no meaningful anti-capitalist "cause". That kind of radicalism died in the 1960s. It's probably more likely that some technological advancement or some minor bit of political legislation transforms capitalism that working-class rebellion.

TD , I know that : BUT the CAUSE is what gets to me !

As a Crusader , a cause must be evident and obvious.

Black elites in the Caribbean ?  African American ??

damn ! these folks are NOT a cause that require any defending OR agonising over