Can England beat New Zealand ?

[quote author=Rowe992 link=topic=97526.msg636479#msg636479 date=1431011509]
Well with the current form of both team s  I don't see England beating New Zealand anytime this year. England are just as bad as the West Indies except that their cricket board board and media loves to think otherwise.
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Did you even bother to read any of the stats presented in this thread? Your blind hatred of England is laughable. You are like a moth to a flame. You see any thread with the word England in the title and you can't wait to rush in and post how arrogant and poor England are. Did you watch any of England's series against India last summer? New Zealand aren't the same team away from home just as England are a better team at home. But don't let facts get in the way of your prejudice.

[quote author=ketchim link=topic=97526.msg636490#msg636490 date=1431011867]
Historical stats will Not work :

Period starts from NZ almost winning a WC 2015 :

to England lixx in 3 days in Barbados 2015 , that begs the question :

"What have you done for me lately " ???
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By that category, England have won more Test matches than New Zealand. 

How did  England do in the WC 2015 couple months ago ?.

How did England do in Barbados last week  ?


New Zealand has more international Fans on it side in this series.

After the 1st TEST results , this MAY change.....depends 

[quote author=ketchim link=topic=97526.msg636495#msg636495 date=1431012187]
How did  England do in the WC 2015 couple months ago ?.

How did England do in Barbados last week  ?


New Zealand has more international Fans on it side in this series.

After the 1st TEST results , this MAY change.....depends 
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You can't compare results from ODI's to Test matches, ketch. Two different formats of the game.

[quote author=ketchim link=topic=97526.msg636495#msg636495 date=1431012187]
How did  England do in the WC 2015 couple months ago ?.

How did England do in Barbados last week  ?


New Zealand has more international Fans on it side in this series.

After the 1st TEST results , this MAY change.....depends 
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if you are going to compare ODI, then ask this question:

How did NZ perform IN Nz vs OUTSIDE of NZ in the recent concluded ODI WC? 

Fans dont care dillinger and Googs: its rah ,! rah ! rah ! KIWIS

memories of Guptil DOUBLE TON in an ODI  World Cup RECORD  8)

what will he do in TEST ?

Just to add a little colour to my previous post about England being a different team at home. At home since January 1, 2013, England have won 8 Test matches, lost 2 and drawn 4. If you want to take it back even further, since 2010, England have lost only 5 Test matches at home in 33 matches played.

Ketch and Kiwi fans, over and over again England has demonstrated that they take their game to a higher level when playing at home. 

I think Dilli has pointed that out in his posts....

so, don't place that bet just as yet!  ::LOL::

[quote author=ketchim link=topic=97526.msg636499#msg636499 date=1431012514]
Fans dont care dillinger and Googs: its rah ,! rah ! rah ! KIWIS

memories of Guptil DOUBLE TON in an ODI  World Cup RECORD  8)

what will he do in TEST ?
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If history tells us anything, not much. Guptill has a career Test average of 29.62. His average dips even further away from home (25.46) and his career average against England - albeit in 2 innings - is 2.

http://www.espncricinfo.com/england-v-ne...73903.html

New Zealand took just over 90 minutes to get their tour underway with a 66-run victory at Taunton and their coach, Mike Hesson,

delivered a calm message of confidence to the gathered press leaned up against a white picket fence.

The contrast with the England set-up could not have been more stark.