12 Worst Ideas Religion Has Unleashed on the World

[quote author=mapoui link=topic=95947.msg620253#msg620253 date=1424382458]
who knows.....
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I know ....it will spell the death of Atheists and anti theists : Everywhere  ::LOL::

I will get you a research assistant...Pattax!

Oh no !! : the green god of de afterlife  ::LOL::

[quote author=ketchim link=topic=95947.msg620263#msg620263 date=1424383692]
Oh no !! : the green god of de afterlife  ::LOL::
[/quote] You meant " God didnt make little green apples and it  dont  snow in  Minneapolis in the wintertime"

[quote author=Snoopster link=topic=95947.msg620169#msg620169 date=1424373565]
Maps, I'll give you one of the most wicked, vile, immoral ideas religion has unleashed and imposed on the world: Vicarious Redemption.

What is vicarious redemption you may ask? It is the central teaching of Christianity.  Sam Harris, Richard Dawkins, and Christopher Hitchens have all written about it but I think Hitchen's was able to distill it best and most neatly.  Vicarious redemption is the idea that you can throw all your sins upon another who will take the responsibility for you.  It's scapegoating.  In bronze age times there was a practice among the desert dwellers in the Middle East whereby a goat would be captured to take part in a ritual.  The ritual would entail that a person who had committed an evil or sinful thing and who wanted to be purged of the guilt would throw all his/her sins upon the goat.  The sin laden goat would then be taken to the desert and abandoned.  The former sinner's slate was wiped cleaned, his sins abolished and he was redeemed.

This is the exact same disgusting and hideous concept behind the central doctrine of Christianity.  It can be said that if I love you enough I can repay a financial debt for you.  I may even volunteer to serve prison time for your crimes.  But what I cannot ever do is to take moral responsibility for your actions.  This would be immoral and disgusting.  The idea of vicarious redemption, or vicarious forgiveness, is this very same disgusting idea that a person can abdicate their moral responsibilities for their actions simply in believing that Jesus Christ is the son of god, he died for my sins, was resurrected to the heavens, and will return again.  I can wipe the slate clean again if I do this, my sins have been abolished and I'm redeemed. 

I ask you Maps.  Have you ever heard of something more repugnant than this?

 

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I mentioned that in my put your sins in a chicken thread.  ::LOL::

[quote author=mapoui link=topic=95947.msg620259#msg620259 date=1424382977]
I will get you a research assistant...Pattax!
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I do research pretty well on my own Map.

But thanks. 

[quote author=Snoopster link=topic=95947.msg620235#msg620235 date=1424379817]
Hitchens is good.  But for me Sam Harris is the man. 
I invite you read 'The End of Faith'.  You'll be glad you did. 8)


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None of them should be believed in.

[quote author=ketchim link=topic=95947.msg620182#msg620182 date=1424374632]
What is wrong with Jesus died for the sins of his Flock ?

You idiots has no grasp of these things.

Stay an atheist translate to mean stay ignorant !
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What is your grasp of it?

[quote author=pattycake link=topic=95947.msg620286#msg620286 date=1424387454]
I do research pretty well on my own Map.

But thanks. 
[/quote] You are such an idiot . You claimed yesterday that I have the hots for you ?.
You are  delusional to have that conclusion for it would imply that I do not know the difference between a woman and a crocodile  .

[quote author=ramesh link=topic=95947.msg620305#msg620305 date=1424392355]
You are such an idiot . You claimed yesterday that I have the hots for you ?.
You are  delusional to have that conclusion for it would imply that I do not know the difference between a woman and a crocodile  .
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You don't know the difference.  ::LOL::

And yep,

You do have the hots for me.

Now hush!  ::LOL::