My favourite anecdote of this evil woman comes from a correspondence between her and the District Attorney who prosecuted her friend and benefactor, the fraudster Charles Keating.
Shortly after Mr. Keating was convicted of fleecing nearly 23,000 innocent people of their life savings through the sale junk bonds, the DA received a letter from Mother Teresa. This correspondence was never requested or solicited by the court. But there it was on the DA's desk on the eve of sentencing. The old wench pleaded in her letter for leniency and mercy on Mr. Keating's behalf and thus sought to mitigate his impending custodial sentence. She mentioned how Mr. Keating was a god fearing good Christian who was also her benefactor.
This righteous overture quite rightly fell on deaf ears to the DA. He was more interested in providing as much restitution to Mr. Keating's victims which numbered in the tens of thousands. In a very eloquent and humble reply, the DA wrote back to Mother Teresa and explained to her that her friend and benefactor Mr. Keating was convicted of very grave and serious crimes and that he had stolen quite a lot of money from the very people whom she had ostensibly devoted her life to: the wretched poor and innocent. He explained tritely that the money she received from Mr. Keating was ill-gotten and that he had undertaken to recover as much of it to remedy the hardship caused by her benefactor's crimes.
It was self evident to the DA that not only would he received a prompt and diligent response from the erstwhile Mother, but that she would gladly return the stolen (dirty) money post haste knowing it was the fruits of a crime/sin.
To this day the DA is still waiting for both the reply letter and the money.
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of all people to quote you chose Freud? ::LOL:: ::LOL:: ::LOL:: ::LOL::
[size=0.7em]"My life often seemed to me like a story that has no beginning and no end. I had the feeling that I was an historical fragment, an excerpt for which the preceding and succeeding text was missing. I could well imagine that I might have lived in former centuries and there encountered questions I was not yet able to answer; that I had been born again because I had not fulfilled the task given to me." —Carl Jung[/size]
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Have you actually read Freud? It's clear to me you haven't. Pity you Bro. 8)
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there are no good phucking people in the world..nor does the world need any good people.
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All you're really saying is that you're not a good person and you dislike good people.
That's not the same thing as there being no good people.
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we doh need no good people...put all the good people in their churches and sink them to the bottom of the ocean
we need smart people who can see the world for what it is and seek to make life an accurate reflection of truth.
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[quote author=Goog Lee link=topic=95937.msg619926#msg619926 date=1424290260]
of all people to quote you chose Freud? ::LOL:: ::LOL:: ::LOL:: ::LOL::
[size=0.7em]"My life often seemed to me like a story that has no beginning and no end. I had the feeling that I was an historical fragment, an excerpt for which the preceding and succeeding text was missing. I could well imagine that I might have lived in former centuries and there encountered questions I was not yet able to answer; that I had been born again because I had not fulfilled the task given to me." —Carl Jung[/size]
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[quote author=Snoopster link=topic=95937.msg619924#msg619924 date=1424289300] Maps, I'm not sure if you read what Freud wrote about religion in 'The Future of an Illusion'.
For me, he pretty much sums it up as a fantasy and wishful thinking born out of the trauma of helplessness we experience during childhood.
Freud writes: "I think we have prepared the way sufficiently for an answer to both these questions. It will be found if we turn our attention to the psychical origin of religious ideas. These Which are given out as teachings are not precipitates of experience or end-results of thinking: they are illusions, fulfillment of the oldest, strongest, and most urgent wishes of mankind.
The secret of their strength lies in the strength of those wishes. As e already know, the terrifying impression of helplessness in childhood aroused the need for protection - for protection through love - which was provided by the father; and the recognition that this helplessness lasts throughout life made it necessary to cling to the existence of a Father, but this time a more powerful one.
Thus the benevolent rule of a divine Providence allays our fear of the dangers of life; the establishment of a moral world-order ensure the fulfillment of the demands of justice, which have so often remained unfulfilled in human civilization; and the prolongation of earthly existence in a future life provides the local and temporal framework in which these wish-fulfillment shall take place."
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yes I have seen this before but never got into it seriously. what I like from freud is his development of his ideas on emotional trauma as a major factor in life. that makes a lot of sense to me.
mother teresa to me was a seriously sick woman, like the seriously sick system that used her to kill people by the thousands.
mother teresa is like the wild maniac killers the CIA recruits out of the jails, trains them up, make them learn to wash regularly, dress them and send then around the world to kill by the thousands with not even a lick of conscience.
western elites have made heroes of some of these vicious killers { Clint Eastwood's Sniper is one of such}..even presidents who all were as psychopath as any lunatic killer taken off the streets. such was a man like Truman, even Roosevelt, another real killer... along with obvious manics Bush and Cheney and Bill Clinton, and the absolute hypocrite Obama.
there is no doubt in my mind at all that they saw mother teresa for what she was, a traumatized sadistic killer, become fanatic by religion and used her all along the way, made a hero of a perfect psychopathic killer . that is what western elitism do all the time in their war against humanity. they are always on the look out for such people..in all walks of life. when they find them they use them in whatever way possible to further their murderous games.
to know trauma is to understand people like Ghandi, Mother Teresa, the Lama fella. I consider Freuds work in this area a major contribution.
Trauma and resulting emotional dysfunction is a serious factor in global society. we are all affected to some greater or lesser degree by emotional trauma..from original collective source and subsequently in social reality from our lack of knowledge of and acknowledgement of the original trauma
Freud wrote an important book titled Moses and Monotheism which is a major exploration of collective emotional trauma as historical factor relative to Jews. check it out if you have the time
for Freud's quote above.. which does contain much truth as far as I can tell, the requirements of human survival will be put that conception into full perspective and context should the revolution develop and actualize.
the requirements for human survival demands developed mature humanity, free of emotion disfigurement as described by Freud above. humanity as described by Freud above cannot survive in nature...which is why the very faith that flows out of that conception has brought us to our knees.
humanity must grow up, mature on a basis of acceptance of human truth of existence, acceptance of our reality, conditions of existence and live accordingly... or die. that to my mind is a confrontation of what Freud conceptualizes and reality..the requirements for human survival. and if some of use have come to see and accept such truth, then all humans can. the revolution if it succeeds would set up the social conditions that would put an end to the social conditions that traumatize and demand faith in the unreal as means of survival...which in fact makes more insanity not sanity..faith makes us more crazy not less
but there is more to collective human trauma than Freud saw...Freud saw the trauma but not the full cause. Freud saw trauma as cause as emanating only from social reality. but there were supra human environmental events during human time that also caused species trauma that is still with us and must be resolved as well. in fact the first trauma was environmental, and all social trauma flows from that original cause
only the revolution that eliminates minority social control can save humanity.. minority control requires the hiding of truth and the conditioning of the human species by lies, deepening the very situation described by Freud above. in fact we are still at this stage only as a result of the domination of exploitative society which requires humanity to be stupid and so, capable of minority control.
post haste, urgently, humanity must end exploitative society, create a democracy on majority social control, substitute the survival of society itself as the point and purpose of labour, of work, not minority accumulation of profit. we do this and we give ourselves the essential chance to deal with our truth, correct and clean up ourselves make for ourselves a chance in the universe
My second favourite anecdote regarding Agnes Bojaxhiu a.k.a Mother Teresa.
In 1996, the Irish Republic held a referendum on the question of whether to repeal the laws prohibiting divorce. The law had its origins in clerical rule of Roman Catholicism in that country. However, by 1996 Ireland was very much a secular state and all its political parties were united in repealing the old draconian archaic clerical laws like the prohibition on divorce.
Yet, in the middle of the "Yes" and "No" campaigns we found the erstwhile Mother who jetted in from Calcutta to render her erudite opinions on the matter. She was of course firmly in the "No" camp. She argued, along with her Catholic hardliners, that an Irish woman subjected to abuse and battery from an ignorant drunken brute could never, and should never, ask for better and start afresh with a new slate. If this were to happen she would obviously have committed something quite profane and thus endanger her soul for all eternity.
The referendum was won (very narrowly) by the "Yes" vote. But that very same year the erstwhile Mother from Calcutta stated on television that she very much hope that her friend and kindred spirit, Princess Diana, would some day escape her miserable union with Prince Charles!
Ms. Bojaxhiu clearly had an affinity and proclivity to apply sterner laws and rules to the poor while at the same time offering extravagant indulgences to the rich.
[quote author=Snoopster link=topic=95937.msg619933#msg619933 date=1424292441] Have you actually read Freud? It's clear to me you haven't. Pity you Bro. 8)
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hahahahaha! I did better...I quoted the man who was the student of Freud ::LOL::
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hahahahaha! I did better...I quoted the man who was the student of Freud ::LOL::
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I still fail to see how this invalidates Freud and his views on religion in any way shape or form. 8)
Enlighten us oh great Woo Woo Guru. ::LOL::
