Quote:That’s right, the biggest problem humanity faces – and has faced for just about ever – is religion. Rabid tribalism, delusory moral laws and aggressive, antagonistic superstition that pits us against each other, against nature, against science, against anyone who might have invented a different god (or gods) than ours.
the problem is that you do not understand religion and its effects..and due to your immersion in religion yourself you cannot see the leaves for the trees
in this crisis you do not even see the crisis. what is critical you call healthy. you are no help as the bus goes over the cliff. instead of pulling on the rope you push the bus over ::LOL:: ::LOL:: ::LOL:: ::LOL::
[quote author=Goog Lee link=topic=95556.msg616596#msg616596 date=1423066082]
Thats bull and you know it!
The biggest problems are the sheep who keep following flawed so called religious leaders (another problem)!
don't blame religion for that!
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Tell me Googs. Where do these rogue religious leaders come from? Are they reading different Bibles and Qurans from the rest of the pious flock? Are they getting their perverse ideas from reading scientific journals or Shakespeare?
[quote author=Snoopster link=topic=95556.msg616605#msg616605 date=1423066500] Tell me Googs. Where do these rogue religious leaders come from? Are they reading different Bibles and Qurans from the rest of the pious flock? Are they getting their perverse ideas from reading scientific journals or Shakespeare?
Tell us please. We are all eyes and ears. 8)
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come from the likes of me and you!!! no, they read the same books...written by man.
similar to your line of work...why so many disputes over the meaning of the same legal document?!
[quote author=Goog Lee link=topic=95556.msg616611#msg616611 date=1423066774]
come from the likes of me and you!!! no, they read the same books...written by man.
similar to your line of work...why so many disputes over the meaning of the same legal document?!
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Excellent! So we are in agreement that religious books such as the Bible and Quran are in fact not divine revelations. They are man made. And because they are man made they have no authority over anything or anyone.
So it then begs the question. Why follow these man made directives, injunctions and precepts?
[quote author=Snoopster link=topic=95556.msg616620#msg616620 date=1423067161]
Excellent! So we are in agreement that religious books such as the Bible and Quran are in fact not divine revelations. They are man made. And because they are man made they have no authority over anything or anyone.
So it then begs the question. Why follow these man made directives, injunctions and precepts?
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because hidden in the man made directives are hidden revelations! In fact hidden revelations are all around us....just use your god given brain and don't become a sheep follower! (thats my message, anyway) ;D
[quote author=Goog Lee link=topic=95556.msg616627#msg616627 date=1423067393]
because hidden in the man made directives are hidden revelations! In fact hidden revelations are all around us....just use your god given brain and don't become a sheep follower! (thats my message, anyway) ;D
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Oh, so its qualified now. Some of these written works are man made and others are divine revelations? You make this so easy believe. ::LOL::
Can you start cherry picking the divine revelations from the man made tripe in these religious books? Or is that the domain and purview of the religious leaders?
