For Snoops #1...Then Ketchim! and I know the Rest Will Joomp In

Quote:I"m sorry but I can't let this go before I take my leave for the day.

Answer me this Maps:  Do you want live in a world where Islamic fascists dictate and arbitrate what you can and cannot read, what you can and cannot see, what you can and cannot hear, and what and how you should think?

I ask of you to answer to this very simple question first and we can then proceed further on another day and time. 

well take your time snoops.  when you have the time soon.

however, that formulation above is not a state of affairs limited to Islamic potential and reality.  I learned the limitations on speech early in life in Trinidad..painfully.  and the arbiters of such pain were nig nogs like myself..teachers, bosses, church, government officials etc., police.  there was no freedom of speech in Trinidad.  its the same here in Canada and getting worse.

and another way we are limited in this reality is that you cant be yourself.

if you have an idea of life that gives you confidence for example, and walk the streets and live in that confidence you will be rudely awakened to the reality that that is not the way the established system requires/wants you to be.. and until you become the obedient, frightened, dumb cipher they want, you will have trouble from a sales clerk or bank clerk, or civil servant etc.,.. where ever you have gone/go for service..from everybody.

that's Canada!  indeed its everywhere I have been in the world..and its worse if you are a black man 

but nature and social development requires us all to become all we can be in the positive sense... independent minded, creative and curious, exploratory etc.  it is essential THAT WE ALL DEVELOP THAT WAY, SO THAT WE ALL BECOME AVAILABLE FOR CONTRIBUTORY SOCIAL LIFE, FULL PARTICIPATION ETC., SO THAT SOCIETY BECOMES THE STRONGEST IT CAN BE IN OUR EVOLUTIONARY REALITY, THAT REQUIRES VAST AND EVER EXPANDING HUMAN CAPABILITY TO  SURVIVE...THAT GIVES US THE BEST CHANCE OF SURVIVAL.

but stratified society based on zero sum exploitation of the people does not permit any such thing.  you exercise such right and express such behavior at your own peril...that is if you ever come to understand that is what you must be like in the first place.  the system does not teach you that.  you would have to come that realization on your very own

it is not only Islam/Islamic life that is imposition on the possibilities of human development..where it does not coincide with the interest of the Islamic state, authorities etc.  all states/religions are.  they are all of divided, stratified exploitative society and parasite off the people.  ALL.  the revolution to produce free speech and full human development is really against them all..to remove them all

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but nature and social development requires us all to become all we can be in the positive sense, independent minded, creative and curious, explorative etc.  it is essentiaL THAT WE ALL DEVELOP THAT WAY SO THAT WE ALL BECOME AVAILABE FOR A CONTRIBUTORY SOCIAL LIFE, FULL PARTICIPATION ETC SO THAT SOCXIET BECOMES THE STRONGETS IT CAN BE IN OURT EVOLUTIONARY REALITY THAT REQUIRES VAST AND EVER EXPANDING HIMAN CAPABILITY TO GIVES US THE BEST CHANCE OF SURVCIVAL.
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guyana should have its own supreme court.

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that's Canada!  indeed its everywhere I have been in the world..
and its worse if you are a black man 
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Snoopster can now be equated with all those terrorist cells.

Fanaticism at its finest : be it for charlie or osama  ::LOL::

[quote author=The Chairman link=topic=95082.msg611138#msg611138 date=1421360845]
guyana should have its own supreme court.
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no problem with that : BUT why do they go to the Privy council in England ??

when a Caribbean court of Justice is established ??  :-\

[quote author=pattycake link=topic=95082.msg611118#msg611118 date=1421358460]
That's a long story Map...

But the Gods give us the frailties. And they give it to us as a means to help us to overcome it and earn our better selves. Most of us have no perception of value or merit, but make no mistake that the Gods do. So we don't get anything of value without earning it. Not even ourselves. And it's from our frailties and only our frailties that corruption is born and carries on. 
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you start from god.  I don't go that far.  I see in the conditions into which humans are born, and the way we are born that corruption becomes part of existence.  in fact the term corruption is relative to religious doctrine and commandments as well as human systems of law/jurisprudence..all written literally by men.  that is why we call behaviour that is otherwise natural, a consequence of the way we came into the world, and how the world actually is.

we are born ignorant and insecure, and individual, with varying levels of strength, smarts etc and must learn to survive in conditions we meet as they are...commanded to survive..even deeper the command to survive like sex is inbred and obsessive, absolutely natural with all forms of life.  the answers lie in how we can accomplish that prerogative on any day we are alive in nature...in which there are no guarantees.  that's right...none at all.  lies, killing, deceit, cunning, ambush, murder, theft...all as a consequence is natural human behaviour..all and more os the same, out of insecurity and the way of nature and natural conditions.  but there was an ancient communalism that did not generate such human behaviour.  that was the way such condtins were transcended and achievenm intial survival.

so it follows that communal society n which the community works for the survival of the society generates cooperative behavior.  and with the break up of ancient communal life under pressure fo technological advance, into exploitation society we have generated the opposite of communalism..greedy,mudreorus individualism which is the next side of ur make up..but quite natural.  we have called that behavior also corruption but it was always here.  but the answer to it lies not in rules of doctrine and faith and mans law but in the process of natural evolution

the significant feature from early days to now, is that ancient communalism was a period of infancy and vast backwardness and great insecurity.  our struggle through divided and all the nastiness of that kind of social evolution to now has produced the opposite of the early days materially... great and growing human security and capacity to deal wit nature.  all the problems have been solved to a level that meets all human needs to satisfactory levels.  and the development is on-going, permanent..so increasing human security is in our hands.  we are once again at a point at which we can generate communal society once again but at this tremendously advanced level, and on an on-going basis.  the problem is the stratified social baggage we have arrived at this stage with..the class relations...internecine social warfare, a product of exploitative society that threatens to end in human extinction

that is what we must get over and the only way we can is for popular intervention in the social process to take it over and return humanity to communalism on the basis of all the development that has taken place in the intervening paradigm of human exploitation of itself.  that is in he interest of the majority of humanity and it is the only way humanity can survive from here on in..or out.  survival is embeded in the popular interest..not in the interest of any minority in control of society.  that is the basis on which Sir Ramphal for example, said that only a popular intervention would energize the process to full entrenchment of not only the CCJ but federation as well


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{  communalism
[kuh-myoon-l-iz-uh m, kom-yuh-nl-]

    Examples
    Word Origin

noun
1.
a theory or system of government according to which each commune is virtually an independent state and the nation is merely a federation of such states.
2.
the principles or practices of communal ownership.
3.
strong allegiance to one's own ethnic group rather than to society as a whole. }

[quote author=mapoui link=topic=95082.msg611159#msg611159 date=1421361798]

in fact the term corruption is relative to religious doctrine and commandments as well as human systems of law/jurisprudence..all written literally by men. 
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Anot piece of incriminating evidence that Snoopster is a Fanatic  :-[


Merging the State and Church was a mistake ?

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the answers lie in how we can accomplish that prerogative on any day we are alive in nature...in which there are no guarantees.
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No Map...

There's cosmic rules attached to living, and the answer lies in the females.

The mothers.

But you are right that there's no guarantees. There's certainly no guarantee that a child will be born to an attuned mother. In other words, a woman who can feel an instinct to guide, nurture, and protect her child. Most women are looking for that from a man, so they don't extend that gift of life to their children. That chance is probably 1 in a million. The Gods are very strict about maternity and maternal energies because these are the energies of life.

[quote author=ketchim link=topic=95082.msg611115#msg611115 date=1421358249]
The Truth will set You Free without Bail  ::LOL::
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That isn't itemizing anything.

So release from your shuffling will set you free. 

[quote author=ketchim link=topic=95082.msg611145#msg611145 date=1421361072]
Snoopster can now be equated with all those terrorist cells.

Fanaticism at its finest : be it for charlie or osama  ::LOL::
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I think that somebody who solicits strangers to swallow his fertilizer is a terrorist.  ::LOL::