[quote author=mapoui link=topic=94135.msg600978#msg600978 date=1416817270]
wat do you want me to discus on this Maloony ::confused::
america is an idealistc country..but idealism soon and late proves to be abstract. there is nothing to it. there is nothing to what you talk about. we have all heard that about america since we born. we can study american history and see all the principles that lay behind the rules and laws and opportunities you talk about. and we can sit and talk forever about them if you like to deal in abstractions
bu as soon as you walkout the door you/we are overwhelmed by the real america..the real america that renders all you say abstract.
so what is so hard about that. I have no time and interest in discussing abstractions di'ze all
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Okay,
So your argument is the ego? You're saying that America doesn't praise the black man? There's nothing to America because it offers no idolatry to black males?
That's true. It doesn't. It never did and never will.
But idolatry has nothing to do with liberty, helpful laws, and opportunities.
The solution is for the black males to get over a need for idolatry, because it's a weakness holding them down in misery. Sorrows they will drown in alcohol, drugs, imprisonment, and sex. Or you could move to Africa because Africa does offer idolatry to black males.
freedom and opportunity: to get an education..how...all american students save of the rich are in debt for big money from getting education beyond high school.
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Map,
That isn't new, and been that way ever since the first civilization of Sumer. In ancient Sumer only the wealthy could afford school, so 70% of the population was illiterate. Education has always been excessively expensive. But the difference today is that the poor can borrow money for school, which having the debt of paying it back is better than not having the opportunity because you haven't the money to pay for it.
Sumer offered no loans, so the poor had to be slaves.
Quote:But idolatry has nothing to do with liberty, helpful laws, and opportunities.
they must work Malooney. they must have effective existential meaning and function. they must be implemented for them to work, a structure put in place to ensure that they are effective 24/7..NOW...not tomorrow.
if they do not work, mean something routinely then they are dead principle on paper to be used in fine political speeches, sermons from the pulpit and so on, but have no meaning otherwise
[quote author=mapoui link=topic=94135.msg601119#msg601119 date=1416870477]
they must work Malooney. they must have effective existential meaning and function. they must be implemented for them to work, a structure put in place to ensure that they are effective 24/7..NOW...not tomorrow.
if they do not work, mean something routinely then they are dead principle on paper to be used in fine political speeches, sermons from the pulpit and so on, but have no meaning otherwise
you not getting the point are you
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It is you who are not getting the point.
America is not going to offer you idolatry.
If that's what you really feel is lacking in your existence, then you can move to Africa. Africa offers idolatry to black males.
I ignored all such commentary by you because I had nothing at all like that in mind when I commented. now you take it as admission that I indeed took it as you say because I ignored it.
well..note that you are talking nonsense when you refer that to me. what I said is what I meant. take reference from it and follow it where it may lead directly, relevantly. do not impose your far fetched, groundless impressions on it
[quote author=mapoui link=topic=94135.msg601126#msg601126 date=1416872181]
I ignored all such commentary by you because I had nothing at all like that in mind when I commented. now you take it as admission that I indeed took it as you say because I ignored it.
well..note that you are talking nonsense when you refer that to me. what I said is what I meant. take reference from it and follow it where it may lead directly, relevantly. do not impose your far fetched, groundless impressions on it
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Come on Map, be honest.
You know that your anguish is based on idolatry. America doesn't idolize the black man. That's your whole beef. So stop saying that it doesn't pertain to you. Come on, listen to the overtones of Elijah Muhammad and Louis Farrakhan's messages... It's all about idolatry of the black male. Idolatry they're complaining about not getting in America. What was Elijah Muhammad's relationship with his flock? Idolatry. Was it not? Did they not kill Malcolm X over a struggle for idolatry?
[quote author=mapoui link=topic=94135.msg601130#msg601130 date=1416874625]
I am not aware of any anguish on my part! how yuo manage to glean that I am aguished when there is no anguish in this quarter?
you are a master at distinguishing and imputing things in situations that are not in there at all. mus' be your cosmic level.
:-[ :-[ :-[
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Okay, now you're denying what you're doing. ::LOL::
So I'll remind you.
You're complaining about America and racism against black men. That's what you do every day at Cricket. Now your dissatisfaction isn't anguish?
