Staged Job Injuries

I wonder how many law suits are open in the US on workplace accidents, and whether the percentage is on the rise or not.

I know several people who staged an injury on the job, and all but of them collected big time.

It's comical how people complain about poverty and no jobs, but those on a job don't want to work, and some actually rigging fake accidents to collect insurance money and disability. I even saw a movie, I forget the name of it, but it was about this doctor who cut off his own finger to collect insurance money.

I wonder how much of that is going on in the US.

1. You are wondering if workplace accidents are on the rise (they are, across the world)

2. If workplace accidents are on the rise, it does not enter your mind that this might be because employers are cutting costs, ignoring safety measures or overworking their workers. It also does not enter your mind that the current growth in low-skilled (and often dangerous) jobs might play a part in this rise, or that lowered wages and poverty might be understandably pushing people to con their employers out of cash.

3. You know "several people who staged an injury" and imply that "many others are perhaps also staging injuries".

4. You now think that it is "comical that people complain about poverty and a lack of jobs". Perhaps you think there exists "no poverty and lots of jobs" (Over 80 percent of the world is poor and it is impossible for the planet to sustain a middle class life style for everyone) . You then state that it is "funny that lazy workers with jobs dont work but instead con employers out of money".

Let me give you an economics lesson. For all first world nations, a 5 to 25 percent national unemployment rate is deemed "ideal", as anything lower leads to recessions and aggressive inflation. And it is in the upper and middle classes best interest to have a segment of the labour force perpetually out of work. For the upper classes, this leads to lower wages having to be paid, the ability to use the threat of unemployment to keep workers in line, and an excess pool of skilled labourers to choose from. And for the middle and lower classes, unemployment offers some stability to their dollar and keeps the prices of goods within their reach.

Given that capitalism cannot provide full employment, and that there are always more people than available jobs, it seems strange that certain people aggressively demonize the poor, the unempoyed, the worker compesation huxters etc, when this behaviour directly benefits you and everyone up the social heirarchy. The factors which lead to an employee conning his employer are the factors which benefit you and benefit the employer.

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1. You are wondering if workplace accidents are on the rise (they are, across the world)

2. If workplace accidents are on the rise, it does not enter your mind that this might be because employers are cutting costs, ignoring safety measures or overworking their workers. It also does not enter your mind that the current growth in low-skilled (and often dangerous) jobs might play a part in this rise, or that lowered wages and poverty might be understandably pushing people to con their employers out of cash.

3. You know "several people who staged an injury" and imply that "many others are perhaps also staging injuries".

4. You now think that it is "comical that people complain about poverty and a lack of jobs". Perhaps you think there exists "no poverty and lots of jobs" (Over 80 percent of the world is poor and it is impossible for the planet to sustain a middle class life style for everyone) . You then state that it is "funny that lazy workers with jobs dont work but instead con employers out of money".

Let me give you an economics lesson. For all first world nations, a 5 to 25 percent national unemployment rate is deemed "ideal", as anything lower leads to recessions and aggressive inflation. And it is in the upper and middle classes best interest to have a segment of the labour force perpetually out of work. For the upper classes, this leads to lower wages having to be paid, the ability to use the threat of unemployment to keep workers in line, and an excess pool of skilled labourers to choose from. And for the middle and lower classes, unemployment offers some stability to their dollar and keeps the prices of goods within their reach.

Given that capitalism cannot provide full employment, and that there are always more people than available jobs, it seems strange that certain people aggressively demonize the poor, the unempoyed, the worker compesation huxters etc, when this behaviour directly benefits you and everyone up the social heirarchy. The factors which lead to an employee conning his employer are the factors which benefit you and benefit the employer.
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You sound like a big supporter of staged job injuries.  ::LOL::

But here's a lesson in economics for you.

There's no such thing as middle and upper middle class. That's an illusion.

There is only rich and poor.

And everyone is either one or the other.

In broad, philosophical terms, maybe. Otherwise, of course there is a middle class. And a upper middle class and a lower middle class and an upper upper class and a lower upper class, and relative poverty and absolute poverty and third world poverty and first world poverty....

There are countless shifting social strata.

Middle Class is Alive and Well : suffering to pay taxes but still ....

[quote author=TRINIDADDY link=topic=93634.msg596230#msg596230 date=1414460165]
1. You are wondering if workplace accidents are on the rise (they are, across the world)

2. If workplace accidents are on the rise, it does not enter your mind that this might be because employers are cutting costs, ignoring safety measures or overworking their workers. It also does not enter your mind that the current growth in low-skilled (and often dangerous) jobs might play a part in this rise, or that lowered wages and poverty might be understandably pushing people to con their employers out of cash.

3. You know "several people who staged an injury" and imply that "many others are perhaps also staging injuries".

4. You now think that it is "comical that people complain about poverty and a lack of jobs". Perhaps you think there exists "no poverty and lots of jobs" (Over 80 percent of the world is poor and it is impossible for the planet to sustain a middle class life style for everyone) . You then state that it is "funny that lazy workers with jobs dont work but instead con employers out of money".

Let me give you an economics lesson. For all first world nations, a 5 to 25 percent national unemployment rate is deemed "ideal", as anything lower leads to recessions and aggressive inflation. And it is in the upper and middle classes best interest to have a segment of the labour force perpetually out of work. For the upper classes, this leads to lower wages having to be paid, the ability to use the threat of unemployment to keep workers in line, and an excess pool of skilled labourers to choose from. And for the middle and lower classes, unemployment offers some stability to their dollar and keeps the prices of goods within their reach.

Given that capitalism cannot provide full employment, and that there are always more people than available jobs, it seems strange that certain people aggressively demonize the poor, the unempoyed, the worker compesation huxters etc, when this behaviour directly benefits you and everyone up the social heirarchy. The factors which lead to an employee conning his employer are the factors which benefit you and benefit the employer.
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Bro.  That was a beat down of Tysonesque proportions. ::LOL::

I think it's safe to say Ms. Patty was sent reeling and tumbled to the canvass never to get up again from that vicious "left" hook. ::LOL::

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[size=10pt]I think it's safe to say Ms. Patty was sent reeling and tumbled to the canvass never to get up again from that vicious "left" hook[/size]. ::LOL:: 
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Please dont hurt her , [size=8pt]TRINI[/size]DADDY !  :'(

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Please dont hurt her , [size=8pt]TRINI[/size]DADDY !  :'(
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She was clearly goading for someone to ruff har up a little.  However, the Iron Mike treatment doled out by TriniDaddy wasn't quite what she had in mind. 

You know the old adage "be careful what you ask for, because you just might get exactly that". ::LOL::

Unfortunately, this goes on everywhere in the world, in the US especially. Each state modifies its disability and workmens composition claims policies quite regularly, just to keep abreast of fraudulent activity. It is a shame, but it is reality. The conclusion is that most people like to take the easy way out of things. Why work hard when you don't have to?

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Why work hard when you don't have to?
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Congratulations! You've just perfectly described these guys below.  They are the Wall Street CEO's who demanded that their private banks be bailed out by taxpayers money in 2008.  And do you know what they did with all that free taxpayer money?  They gave themselves huge bonuses!  Why work hard when you don't have to? Right?

But lets vilify and demonize poor people because they are a much easier target.