[quote author=pattycake link=topic=93626.msg602988#msg602988 date=1417813211]
I believe that he did it. And I believe it because what reason is there to mess with Cosby if he didn't do anything? Why would anybody just create stuff on him? It's not like he's running for a public office or anything, so why would anybody just make stuff up on him?
It makes no sense.
I believe he did it.
Okay, because if he really did it then that would explain the accusations.
I mean, we don't hear anybody saying anything about anybody else. Not about Will Smith, Denzel Washington, Samuel L. Jackson, or nobody. Just Cosby. And why? Because nobody else did anything. Just Cosby.
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All of this came back because of some recent comedian's rant making fun of Cosby and rape. So all of a sudden all these women are coming forth. The sheer number of accusers leaves me to believe that there is definitely something he did. How extreme it was I don't know. When these attacks happened did they not have rape kits at hospitals ? I know a lot of women are traumatized after rape and don't come forth and a lot are simply too embarrassed or ashamed to admit it but not ONE went to the hospital for examination. I find that strange. And why if so many attacks happened was he not arrested during that time. How did all these women remain quiet for so long ? I do believe he was up to something. Possible drugging these women and raping them is one scenario. They may not have been violent attacks. I hope the truth is uncovered and he is punished if found guilty.
[quote author=wulfman link=topic=93626.msg603194#msg603194 date=1417910785]
All of this came back because of some recent comedian's rant making fun of Cosby and rape. So all of a sudden all these women are coming forth. The sheer number of accusers leaves me to believe that there is definitely something he did. How extreme it was I don't know. When these attacks happened did they not have rape kits at hospitals ? I know a lot of women are traumatized after rape and don't come forth and a lot are simply too embarrassed or ashamed to admit it but not ONE went to the hospital for examination. I find that strange. And why if so many attacks happened was he not arrested during that time. How did all these women remain quiet for so long ? I do believe he was up to something. Possible drugging these women and raping them is one scenario. They may not have been violent attacks. I hope the truth is uncovered and he is punished if found guilty.
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You raise some valid points Wulf.
But lets focus on the scenario or status quo at that time.
Firstly, Cosby presented himself as a pro positive guy all about morality and progress, a pristine image he projected of himself, and that alone creates a psychological confusion in the minds of people who associates with such a person. As for instance, how often do we see and hear wolves in sheep's clothing touting themselves as righteous when they're in fact churlish, dirty, and perverted booty heads? And then people or fans crowed around them based on the image they tout of themselves and not what they actually demonstrate to be about? How often do we see examples of that Wulf? Every single day and everywhere we go. Elijah Muhammad, Jim Jones, and Adolf Hitler were prime examples of this, were they not? Okay, so the image Cosby projected of himself had the senses of people arrested to.
Then the victims were in his working group, so they were bound by not only the image Cosby casted of himself but also the salary of their employer. He was a big time celeb with pockets deep enough to impart others a good living. This explains why the victims didn't seek help or say anything about what he did to them. They were wrestling with the shock of what he did in contrast to the upright image he projects of himself.
Okay, and now, these victims are in their maturity and are no longer restrained by the ignorance of youth and looking for someone to look up to and lead them. They have their independence now to lead themselves and see and evaluate everything accurately. Which explains why they're coming forward about Cosby now.
There's nothing whatsoever worse than a wolf in sheep's clothing, and the tragedy is the hold they have on other's sense. This is literally why all those people at Jonestown put up with Jone's bulls*** and drank the kool-aid. Jones was nothing but a scumbag and those people hung around him on the basis of the regal image he projected of himself.
It's basically the force of pimping. Think for a minute about every pimp. What are they? Scumbags. Correct? But they always have a devout following because of the regal image they project of themselves. This is what went down with Cosby. He had the pimp force working in his favor with his female employees. In Hollywood, the pimp force reins. As every female sex symbol has to sleep with producers to get into the industry. They don't really want to do it but they need to make a good living. Now what would they look like telling the truth that they were raped to get hired?
I believe without question that Cosby is a bonafide scumbag and have been all along.
[quote author=wulfman link=topic=93626.msg603192#msg603192 date=1417910381]
At least I know who my parents are you intestinal worm ridden slime.
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Well here is your Mama and little brother . Is your dad a Holstein bull?
[quote author=pattycake link=topic=93626.msg603199#msg603199 date=1417916611]
You raise some valid points Wulf.
But lets focus on the scenario or status quo at that time.
Firstly, Cosby presented himself as a pro positive guy all about morality and progress, a pristine image he projected of himself, and that alone creates a psychological confusion in the minds of people who associates with such a person. As for instance, how often do we see and hear wolves in sheep's clothing touting themselves as righteous when they're in fact churlish, dirty, and perverted booty heads? And then people or fans crowed around them based on the image they tout of themselves and not what they actually demonstrate to be about? How often do we see examples of that Wulf? Every single day and everywhere we go. Elijah Muhammad, Jim Jones, and Adolf Hitler were prime examples of this, were they not? Okay, so the image Cosby projected of himself had the senses of people arrested to.
Then the victims were in his working group, so they were bound by not only the image Cosby casted of himself but also the salary of their employer. He was a big time celeb with pockets deep enough to impart others a good living. This explains why the victims didn't seek help or say anything about what he did to them. They were wrestling with the shock of what he did in contrast to the upright image he projects of himself.
Okay, and now, these victims are in their maturity and are no longer restrained by the ignorance of youth and looking for someone to look up to and lead them. They have their independence now to lead themselves and see and evaluate everything accurately. Which explains why they're coming forward about Cosby now.
There's nothing whatsoever worse than a wolf in sheep's clothing, and the tragedy is the hold they have on other's sense. This is literally why all those people at Jonestown put up with Jone's bulls*** and drank the kool-aid. Jones was nothing but a scumbag and those people hung around him on the basis of the regal image he projected of himself.
It's basically the force of pimping. Think for a minute about every pimp. What are they? Scumbags. Correct? But they always have a devout following because of the regal image they project of themselves. This is what went down with Cosby. He had the pimp force working in his favor with his female employees. In Hollywood, the pimp force reins. As every female sex symbol has to sleep with producers to get into the industry. They don't really want to do it but they need to make a good living. Now what would they look like telling the truth that they were raped to get hired?
I believe without question that Cosby is a bonafide scumbag and have been all along.
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Some good points for sure Patty. I guess I understand why they stood silent if you liken it to they depended on him for their salary and because of his "good guy" status. Not sure how much maturity comes into play as many of the victims were well in their 20s when the alleged attacks occurred. And it still makes me scratch my head that not one woman took a stand. Jobs come and go. If he was guilty and they took him to court they would have gotten a lot more justice and money versus staying silent simply for job security. Unless he paid them cash under the table ?
[quote author=wulfman link=topic=93626.msg603225#msg603225 date=1417945630]
Some good points for sure Patty. I guess I understand why they stood silent if you liken it to they depended on him for their salary and because of his "good guy" status. Not sure how much maturity comes into play as many of the victims were well in their 20s when the alleged attacks occurred. And it still makes me scratch my head that not one woman took a stand. Jobs come and go. If he was guilty and they took him to court they would have gotten a lot more justice and money versus staying silent simply for job security. Unless he paid them cash under the table ?
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Most people in their 20's and 30's is still in the child phase of mind. They're looking for missing love, a sense of belonging, and a leader to guide and keep them in line. Particularly from a man, a guy with a big ego, who acts like he's invincible and speaks like he knows what he's talking about. This is misinterpreted as confidence and strong leadership. So even when the guy is talking and doing garbage, people overlook that and go with the illusion of confidence and infallibility that he casts.
I'm telling you, Cosby had a firm captivating grip on his female underlings. They saw him as their leader and froze in a coma when he violated them. These women are crones now, and are free of the feeling of needing to be nurtured and lead by a man. They would do all those things you pointed out if somebody were to do that to them now, but back then, they were still in a childlike state of mind looking for acceptance and guidance.
The Cardinal signs are the main or primary people who sheep will follow, and mind you that Cosby is a cardinal sign. He's a Cancer. If you go back in history and check the zodiac signs of all leaders, you will find that most of them are cardinal. MOST. Check the signs of gang and syndicate leaders and pimps. Most of them are cardinal. If they are not cardinal by month then they are cardinal by year. So check the Chinese sign too.
Hitler, Elijah, Jones, Cosby, and Manson, etc., are cardinal.
The cardinal people are the brooms of the zodiac. The cattle herding brooms who sweeps the herds of sheep to their own ends. Which is usually to the bedroom, criminal activity, and the grave. After all, the cattle herder has nowhere to sweep his flock but to sordid places. Which is graves and prisons.
I do believe Cosby is guilty of all the things he has been accused of, what I find SUSPECT however, is the timing of this onslaught.
Lord knows, things in Hollywood can be kept secret forever and a day, I'm wondering which "suit" in Hollywood Cos pissed off, that the floodgates are now opening, there's a distinct air of " I'll show you ni$$er!!!!" about this whole thing.