Samuels opts out of teammates’ fight for rights

You listened : heard whom the Ring Leaders are ??

OR u prefer to bury hand in sand

Whatever one may think about Wavell Hinds' handling of the dispute with the players, one thing is clear: the moves that the WICB have been making to reform the domestic game in the region are very good and well overdue. I remember reading a very upbeat article by Tony Crozier about it on cricinfo a while ago and thinking that at last the board is doing something right.
Unfortunately, the players' walk-out, whatever the merits of their case, has blown away all these efforts and left the West Indies facing an uncertain future. The other ICC members cannot stand by and let the West Indies go down. Time to put their hands deep in their pockets.

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You listened : heard whom the Ring Leaders are ??

OR u prefer to bury hand in sand
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bury whose head in what sand ::confused::
your reasoning is sandy! somebody poured a cup of sand down into the liquid that grease your skids.
your position is silly on this issue.

you are smarter and more knowledgeable than that.  at least you were in previous times.  I don't know what has gone wrong

how in the hell does taking a silly stand here  help your desire to separate and go your own way with Guyana ::confused::

the state of things is clear. the player shave a case..a good one. Bravo/Pollard are the leaders of this action appointed by the players.  the players have done nothing illegal so there is nothing shady involved.  why then refer to those 2 as 'ring leaders' ::confused::

ring leaders of what ::confused::  why do you demean 2 Trinidadians like that...in fact  all Trinidadians...they do something to you ::confused::

this is a legit movement by the players, according to all principle, precedent and law. the players are under no pressure, from any  quarter at all for any nasty smell relative to their actions. they have all been assured about all the T20 employment they have in the world.

everything is fine and well with them yet you insist on bad-mouthing them.all the players but particularly Bravo and Pollard.  I mean you can criticize their play, call them under achievers and not really good..so fine. I agree with much of that relative to Bravo and Pollard.  but you have no justification for constantly running down these 2,  relative to the labour action they are involved in... front and centre
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Whatever one may think about Wavell Hinds' handling of the dispute with the players, one thing is clear: the moves that the WICB have been making to reform the domestic game in the region are very good and well overdue. I remember reading a very upbeat article by Tony Crozier about it on cricinfo a while ago and thinking that at last the board is doing something right.
Unfortunately, the players' walk-out, whatever the merits of their case, has blown away all these efforts and left the West Indies facing an uncertain future. The other ICC members cannot stand by and let the West Indies go down. Time to put their hands deep in their pockets.
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Whatever one may think about Wavell Hinds' handling of the dispute with the players, one thing is clear: the moves that the WICB have been making to reform the domestic game in the region are very good and well overdue. I remember reading a very upbeat article by Tony Crozier about it on cricinfo a while ago and thinking that at last the board is doing something right.
Unfortunately, the players' walk-out, whatever the merits of their case, has blown away all these efforts and left the West Indies facing an uncertain future. The other ICC members cannot stand by and let the West Indies go down. Time to put their hands deep in their pockets.
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what is so great about what skameron has done in so-called reform of west indies cricket recently ::confused::

what I see there is a rabid, exploitative business plan to exploit west indies cricket for the profit of the wicb itself and corporate sponsors..hardly for the maximum benefit of the players and the development of the game in the region.

the public component is totally absent from the planning and implementation of this scheme..and the general interest is not addressed in the proceeds.

its another crock

U too emotional :

Bravo and Pollard will be relegated to the Dustbin of History :

watch and see : their Action was beyond Silly !

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U too emotional :

Bravo and Pollard will be relegated to the Dustbin of History :

watch and see : their Action was beyond Silly !

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and I want you to take Guyana and be gone already.  wat you still doing here.
in the end up in a dustbin of sorts.  whatever they cart you away in is in fcat a dustbin

but while we still here how about a lil truthful analysis to make people happy..like agrreing that Bravo is doing some good work at the moment in labour relations..not a ring leader

Bravo is doing the Crappiest job egged on by that Oaf Pollard , Meathead 


It was a silly cause they choose.

Just admit that and move on : Labour relations my Arse !

never thought that you would identify with the heart of west indian reaction, elitism, incompetence, inefficiency and idiocy. stunning : : :

oh well!  skameron needs an assistant.  seems the perfect place fuh you..skamerons' sidepiece
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Having now listened to Samuels' interview I think it was a reasonable position to take.

He is not a member of WIPA as he feels when he was out in the wilderness, during his ban, he was left out in the cold with no support so he has given up on WIPA.

His main point, I believe, is the cricket should have continued and then address the issues when you get home but would that have been his position had his form been different? I think Samuels was motivated having been left out for the Bangladesh series and also not sure if he has an IPL contract so he was using this tour as a platform.

He acknolwedges the WICB, by ignoring letters, exacerbated the situation and players would take action.

He also comments on the tirade of letter, even one to him and felt the media should be addressed instead of all these letters. However I think these letter may be necessary to have documentary evidence given past dealings.

I am not sure why Wavell has not stepped down as he does not have the support of his members!

I have little time for Marlon but his interview was quite agood one.

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I have little time for Marlon but his interview was quite agood one.

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never thought that you would identify with the heart of west indian reaction, elitism, incompetence, inefficiency and idiocy. stunning :

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Follow Mail and listen to de damn interview : Samuela is nothing like what you wrote