CHANDERPAUL: MINIMUM Goal is 13500; MAXIMUM Goal Is 16000

[size=18pt]Shiv Chanderpaul who recently said he will continue to play for as long as possible has revealed to the cricket world that his minimum goal for his test career is scoring 13500 runs and his maximum goal is scoring 16000 runs. [/size]





CHECK THIS:

* Shiv's minimum goal of 13500 test runs will ensure that he ends his career as the 2nd highest test scorer---ahead of Ponting, Kallis, Dravid, etc

* Shiv's maximum goal if achieved would ensure that he ends his career as the highest runs scorer in tests---he'll overtake the prolific Tendulkar..



15921 Tendulkar
13378 Ponting
13289 Kallis
13288 Dravid
11988 Sangakkara
11953 Lara
11684 Chanderpaul

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Quote:[size=14pt]A goal without a plan is just a wish. Shiv is not the kind of man who engages in mindless hoping and wishing like the LOSERS who hate him. Shiv has a solid plan to achieve his cricket goals---13500 minimum; 16000 maximum.[/size]

GIVE PRAISE TO THE TIGER. 

Rev

16,000 would be nice. 

[quote author=The Chairman link=topic=92873.msg589848#msg589848 date=1411428997]
16,000 would be nice.
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* LETS DO A LITTLE SIMPLE ARITHMETIC.

* Shiv has scored 4948 runs in 57 tests since Jan 2007 ---that's 87 runs per test

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* For Shiv(11684) to reach his maximum goal of 16000 he would have to score 4316 runs.

* Assuming an average of 87 runs per test---Shiv will need 49 tests(4316/87) to reach 16000.

* 158 + 49 = 207

*[size=14pt] That means Shiv will reach his maximum goal of 16000 runs in his 207th test.[/size]  ;D

Rev

HOW MANY TEST WILL SHIV NEED TO REACH HIS MINIMUM GOAL OF 13500 RUNS ?

* Same assumption as above---Shiv scores at 87 runs per test.

* 13500 - 11684 = 1816 runs needed by Shiv to reach 13500

* That 1816 runs will take 1816/87 = 21 tests

* 158 + 21 = 179

* [size=14pt]So Shiv will reach his minimum goal of 13500 test runs in his 179th test.[/size]  ;D

* [size=18pt]THE JOY OF NUMBERS.[/size]  ;D

Rev

[size=18pt]A Look at how some of the elite and statistical greats performed in their last 8 years in tests[/size]

RANKED BY AVERAGE:


54.63 Lara---played 74 tests in his last 8 years
54.04 Kallis(71 tests)
49.87 Ponting(84 tests)
49.10 Tendulkar(74 tests)
47.02 Dravid(78 tests)
44.97 Richards(63 tests)
71.71 Chanderpaul---he has played 57 tests the past 8 years---still has GOALS to achieve.


OBSERVATION:

* Only Lara and Kallis averaged 50+ in their last 8 years.

Rev

[size=18pt]Shiv has played 57 tests in the 8 years since Lara retired. He has scored 4948 runs at an amazing average of 71.71 with 16 hundreds and 25 fifties. Those are great numbers folks, but shockingly the only thing the haters see is NOT OUTS. They don't see the 71.71 average.[/size]

* You see what is in your mind.

* If HATE is in your mind you will not see that 71.71 Shiv average the past 8 years.

Rev

[quote author=Rev link=topic=92873.msg589851#msg589851 date=1411430698]
* LETS DO A LITTLE SIMPLE ARITHMETIC.

* Shiv has scored 4948 runs in 57 tests since Jan 2007 ---that's 87 runs per test

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* For Shiv(11684) to reach his maximum goal of 16000 he would have to score 4316 runs.

* Assuming an average of 87 runs per test---Shiv will need 49 tests(4316/87) to reach 16000.

* 158 + 49 = 207

*[size=14pt] That means Shiv will reach his maximum goal of 16000 runs in his 207th test.[/size]  ;D

Rev
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Given the amount of test cricket being played these days, how old would Chanderpaul be then? 

I don't think so!  WICB might even kick him out before Lara's score, muchless 10D! 

[quote author=Goog Lee link=topic=92873.msg590052#msg590052 date=1411500322]
Given the amount of test cricket being played these days, how old would Chanderpaul be then? 

I don't think so!  WICB might even kick him out before Lara's score, muchless 10D! 
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Googs:

* Shiv has scored 11,684 runs to date.

QUESTION:

* How many more runs does Shiv need to surpass Lara ?

* I'll give you the answer----11,953 - 11,684 = 269

* So Shiv needs 270 to surpass Lara.

* Do you believe he will be kicked out before scoring those 270 ?


RE: WI FUTURE TOUR SCHEDULE

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* Between the upcoming Indian tour in Nov 2014 and Feb 2016 the WI will play 21 tests.

* Shiv will likely play in all 21 if he is fit----and he will only be 41yr 6mo in Feb 2016. ;D

* 158 + 21 = 179

* Shiv will then target Tendulkar's 200 tests. ;D

Rev

Well I don't see Chanderpaul going to 16000 runs unless he plays well over 200 test matches. His recent innings were too slow to achieve those goals over the next few years unless they West Indies play a lot of test cricket. Chanderpaul should just focus on surpassing Lara as West Indies leading run scorer in test cricket.

READ THIS ARTICLE:

Quote:[size=18pt]Is Shiv great? [/size] Published: Friday | September 19, 2014

[size=12pt]Shivnarine Chanderpaul, one of Test cricket's biggest run-getters - and greatest batsmen of all time - according to Orville Higgins.

In the last few days, as the career of Shivnarine Chanderpaul enters its twilight, the debate is already on in earnest about his legacy in our pantheon of great West Indies batsmen. Some, like my good friend Oral Tracey, have gone so far as to openly declare that he shouldn't be considered great at all. To be great in cricket, indeed in any sport, is to perform at a high level constantly above one's peers. Once we accept that Shiv has constantly outperformed his peers, his greatness is a matter of course.

Even Shiv's biggest critics will argue that he has great career numbers. None can argue that an average in the low 50s after well over 100 Tests is exceptional. By the time he finishes, he will be in the top five run-getters of all time in Test cricket. To argue against Shiv being great is to flail against reason. That makes no sense at all.

Despite his phenomenal record, Shiv isn't given his due in the Caribbean. We praise his durability and doggedness, but we don't see him for what he is: one of the very best batsmen in the modern era. One man told me on radio that he is a great "run accumulator", but not an outstanding batsman. He claims Shiv can't be great because he merely plods along with risk-free efficiency. That, of course, is nonsense. Batsmanship is primarily about one's ability to accumulate runs, which makes that argument so illogical it borders on the absurd.+

Now don't get me wrong. Like many others, I, too, have often been frustrated by Shiv's unwillingness to change gears when he bats, especially when set. We know he can step up the tempo. His 69-ball hundred against Australia a few years ago remains one of the most explosive test innings of all time. I, too, have been bewildered at his refusal to shield the tail. I am just as mystified as anybody else why he refuses to bat higher in the order.

I am sometimes reduced to wanting to hurl things at the TV because he seems more interested in being not out than making a hundred. These, though, should not deny him his greatness. If he did all the other things we want him to do, he would be 'greater', that's all.

We in the West Indies have been spoiled. We have been blessed with a long line of shot makers and, therefore, we are not as appreciative as we should be of what Shiv has done. Shiv currently scores at a strike rate of 43.52. We scoff at that to the point where we almost want to ridicule him. But think on this: Rahul Dravid also averages in the low 50s (52.31), but scores slower than Shiv (42.51 per hundred balls). Nobody in his right mind in India would question Dravid's greatness. Indeed, the man they reverently call 'The Wall' has often been said to be Tendulkar's equal, if his not his superior.

Other greats
In Australia, Allan Border is revered. Next to Bradman, he is arguably their most respected batsman. Allan Border typifies everything that Aussies like. He is seen as gritty and determined. His strike rate is 40.98. Shiv scores quicker than he as well. Had Shiv been Indian or Australian, he would be feted wherever he goes.

Shiv is often criticised for not producing enough match-winning innings. We must be careful how we say that. Shiv hasn't been blessed with playing in a great team. That should be the end of that. Brian Lara, who we all idolise, has played on more losing teams than all the accepted batting greats of all time, and yet, strangely, we don't use that against him when we decide his greatness. To play match-winning innings, you have to have a team to put you in match-winning positions, a luxury Shiv has hardly had too often in his long and distinguished career.

We are being unkind to the little Guyanese. He is not my favourite batsman by a long shot, he wouldn't get into my all-time West Indies eleven. But questioning his greatness falls nothing short of cricket lunacy![/size]

Orville Higgins is a sports journalist and talk-show host at KLAS ESPN FM. Email feedback to columns@gleanerjm.com