[quote author=Kwami link=topic=74302.msg459435#msg459435 date=1353619570]
Wesley Clarke is a hypocrite , he was gung ho in support of the Bush invasion of Iraq.I remember when he said in 2003 that the intelligence was irrifutable that Saddam had WMD and he was also a paid pentagon hack to appear on the news media to promote the war
. It was only after the failures in Iraq that he changed his tune and became an anti war advocate , sensing and possibility to become a democratic candidate for president.
When he was exposed as a paid pentagon hack , his candidacy collapsed
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of course he would side with Bushs government at that time - either that or he winds up dead. of course he chose life rather than death.
the point is.....he is revealing the truth.
[quote author=mapoui link=topic=74302.msg459256#msg459256 date=1353596280]
clark is wrong about africa. he knows better but he is too dismissive of africa
african intervention has been different up to recently.
there was no need to intervene in african militarily directly to get the resources. covert manipulation was enough. also co-opting various african leaders and nations to act as proxies militarily in western interests produced all the extractive corporations wanted
the west wanted maximum chaos in africa. the west also they wanted africans dead...and the best way for that to happen was for them to kill off each other.
the west accomplished that by deceit, lies and manipulation of african leadership, pitting african politicians and political parties in nations against each other..and african tribes and nations against each other, by exploiting ancient tribal animosities
all of that was easy by the way the map of africa had been drawn-up at the 'independence' of current african nations. they arent nations at all, cutting right across and including differing tribal contiguities and animosities, easily exploited by the west. they set it up at the start
the west set up most current african conflicts by the way they drew the african map, 50 years ago.
but currently america has instituted its military command AFRICOM AND HAS INDEED INVADED AFRICA ..in response to massive Chinese business inroads into africa.
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whats happening in Africa is the classic "keep the slave mentality to cripple a nation". but what Clarke means is that should the ME not have any resources the West needs and wants, the same would have been applied to them as was done in Africa.