The revival of West Indies cricket is a complex challenge.

wi · 04-16-2017, 07:18 AM · 1 person reading this discussion

#1
By Dr. Rudy Webster

A recent article in a Caribbean newspaper hinted that West Indies captain Jason Holder is too nice a guy to get the best out of his players.

It suggested that he should get tougher with them and adopt the sergeant major approach that Allan Border, a former Australian captain, used with his players.
This thinking is quite appealing but is very shallow. Border was a champion batsman but he was not a great captain; he was no Mark Taylor or Steve Waugh.
So why recommend that approach to Holder when two Australians who coached the West Indies team already used it with little or no success?
Why indeed should Holder copy Border? What is wrong with the leadership of Frank Worrell and Clive Lloyd? These captains were firm when they had to be but were not sergeant majors. They were in fact very nice guys who preferred the carrot to the stick.
Their achievements are exceptional. They brought together a diverse collection of talented individuals who lacked direction, common purpose, self-discipline and self-belief and turned them into a highly disciplined, motivated, professional and all-conquering unit that dominated world cricket for two decades.
In their own way, Worrell and Lloyd achieved two great victories. First, they got rid of the debilitating self-image and the limiting self-beliefs that had been stifling the talent of their players and second, they removed the cancerous effects that insularity, bad habits, poor excuses and outmoded traditions had on teamwork.
Some might say that Holder’s players lack the talent of the players from the Lloyd/Worrell era. That may be partially true. However, when Worrell’s young team went to Australia in 1960 few had any kind of reputation before they arrived, but when they left they were all stars or superstars, each with an enhanced self-image, powerful self-belief and a strong will to win.
From the beginning Worrell reminded them about their latent talent and emphasised that they would beat Australia if they played with discipline and commitment.

Performance revolves around many things, none more important than self-image, self-belief and self-confidence. The player’s self-image is the subconscious picture he has of himself and it causes him to think and perform like the player he imagines himself to be. To enhance his performance, improve his self-image and self-belief.
West Indies cricket has been in steady decline for the last 20 years or so and with the advent of every new president and CEO that decline gets steeper. In recent years the players have been performing in a hostile and toxic environment that has been perpetrated by the West Indies Cricket Board (WICB). If Worrell and Lloyd had to operate in that environment their achievements would have been critically limited.
Goldfish in a fish tank will grow larger or stay smaller according to the size of the fish tank. If the tank is large the goldfish will get bigger but if the tank is small they will stay small.
So too, players will grow larger and succeed or stay smaller and fail according to the size and quality of environment that is created for them. Expansion and improvement of their environment will enhance their ability to learn, grow and become better players.
But before this can happen to the West Indies players, the WICB and its members must start with themselves and set the right example. They must detoxify and expand the current cricket and management environment and commit themselves to self-improvement and better self-leadership.
Frank Worrell once said, “Lancashire League cricket is a must for any youngster who hopes to make the grade. One of the greatest assets one gets from league cricket is a tremendous sense of responsibility and awareness.
One can learn more in three years of League cricket than in twelve years of cricket outside the United Kingdom, even at the international level.
One learns to cope with the swerving ball, the turning ball, the cutter, the stopping ball, the cold, dark and blustery weather, running noses, cold hands and feet, faulty umpiring decisions, dropped catches and traditional needle matches.”
Between the sixties and nineties most of our good cricketers improved the technical, mental and strategic aspects of their game by playing league or county cricket. Shouldn’t the WICB be encouraging talented young players to follow that development path?
Why do some sports journalists and the WICB behave as if West Indies never had a cricket history of any significance. Have they lost their cricket memory? And why can’t we copy and rejoice in the achievements of our great players?

The WICB, coaches and players can learn a lot from the experience and wisdom of Sir Garfield Sobers. They should study his formula for cricket success and use it as their performance model. Sobers once said, “If I had a free hand in coaching I would initially spend most of my time teaching the basics of the game. Thereafter, I would devote an equal amount of time teaching the players how to identify and deal with the many different situations they will face during the game.
Good players know how to think, how to concentrate and what to do in different situations. I believe this combination gives the player the best preparation and the best chance to do well.”
Worrell would have added a third component – the improvement of self-belief, self-motivation and self-discipline because he knew that the depth of a player’s motivation and self-discipline determines the level of his performance. Some experts now claim that the correlation between self-discipline/self-motivation and success is greater than the correlation between ability and success.
The revival of West Indies cricket is a complex challenge. Changing Holder into a sergeant major will be just as effective to his team’s game as putting plaster on a skin cancer that has been slowly killing the body. The plaster would not change the course of the disease.

#2
We going backwards. You mean to tell me that we can’t find no one in the Caribbean to teach out cricket how to bowl and bat. We make the ICC change many of the cricket rules today in cricket. Now you could only bowl one bouncer in a over. First thing we need some fast bouncy wicked in the Caribbean. All of a sudden we have all kinds of spinners. No disrespect to the spinners. I believed in playing 4 genuine fast bowlers who can bowl at 90 miles per hour. That is the first thing we have to do. Those Asians countries don’t like quick fast bowling for years. We preparing dead wicket to beat our selves.

#3
when will the revival begin once again.

#4
Lets hope Afghanistan is our revival !

#5
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Lets hope Afghanistan is our revival !
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efghanistan!  if only because dhe may yet be very poor internationally.  one or 2 stiff classy players, and play as a team and is ah cutarse fuh this CWI team here.
wen deh done is west indies 12 f-ghanistan 11

#6

Quote:[quote author=CHAIRMAN link=topic=109277.msg737735#msg737735 date=1495732033]
when will the revival begin once again.

all the problems of being/not being a nation/people has caught up with the west indies.

west indies is ah collection of failed states with no nationalism at all..none..nada.  there is nutten to gird west indians for any success.  in fact we are wedded to failed westernism, building assiduously by failed western organizational structures that lead to the disaster we now are.

we have to do the following.  what are we in the west indies..what are our problems in our specific, historic social/natural environment, natural and sociological reality...and what is to hand in this reality we can make use off to solve our sociological, existential problem..that is a mix of conquest and genocide, slavery, colonialism and indenture, neocolonialism, massive detailed racism, economic slavery, hostile multi-ethnic population composition and relations, majority Indo/African, each focused on their mother sources of India/Africa, not the west indies, as home.

all of this has produced a totally compromised independence that has subsumed all we are, and can be, into pure naked, now endemic social corruption, and the resulting degrading of west indians .

that ansah to that is the way forward collectively as a nation, english speaking...the only way forward: finding a way to blend all west indian parts into a nation, to create a nationalism that places the west indies/west indians first, as home, focused only meeting the needs  of all citizens, west indians.. period. 

that is the job at hand, the need to create a real democracy, urgent... must be done or the failure we now live will degrade even further into such social corrosion and acidity, we will simply fade away as a nation, as we are already re-invaded

there really is no separation in reality anywhere any time any place of the entire contents of reality.  its whole..and we address the whole or we exist in failure. we are all in one reality. we must operate on a nationalist self-interest.  if we do not do that we gave failed. 

there is little to no possibility of producing much that is representative of the region that would be of high class, that would be successful/competitive on a world scale

so everything we do in the world now is of a lower and further falling quality, than we used to produce.  if we were successful before it coincided with an upward sociological arc, that involved the prospects of our long developing fight for independence , and on partial success of that struggle,  in the expectation of national potential and success to produce the life we all need and were struggling for... democracy, freedom, liberation, peace and prosperity. 

once that expectation/potential was betrayed, we have fallen consistently, in ALL that we do, in nationalist representation as a region/nation-in-waiting on the world stage...and for ourselves

if we do not become who and what we are, directed by our needs, its going to be diminution to nothing..ultimately re-invasion which is already happening, as white and other forriners overrun the region as tourists and immigrants..as the commanding heights of the west indian economy remain totally in the hands of forriners... an expanding fact. 

and exemplary of Skameron/CWI, we build top down institutions already tried and failed in the west..massive, parasitic bureaucracies that bleed and alienate the people, in routine exploitative process..which bureaucratic formations for obvious reasons are massively supported by their failed but still established precursors in the developed countries...ICC, Olympics, FIFA etc., and general government and corporate administrative structures

all this accomplishes is the  enmeshment of the west indies in growing top-down globalization, a western failure that is taking the world down with it.  we have to find a way..our own way, relevant to our sociological and natural reality, or we are toast

(edited now.  I hope its clearer)[/quote]

#7
webster never talks sociologically, inclusive..never about the whole and how that impacts the current failed reality.  he never talks about west indian history economics , the evolution of our culture as it is currently... what that means in our failure.

Webster seems to be keen on this or that manipulation try solve the problem..which is deep as I have tried to describe.  manipulations have not solved the problem and never will.  the problem is social..and until the society is fixed to produce  quality citizenship by developed citizens, as secure as the society can make us all in our west indian reality as citizens, then we will continue to fail and fade away from existence.

Webster for one, never discusses the awful wicb/now CWI bureaucracy built-up by Skameron... its parasitic nature, and its literal re-enslavement of west indian players,...built up now by the descendants of the original slaves themselves..led and built by the Negro W. Cameron

SAME WAY WEBSTER DOES NOT TALK ABOUT THE VERY SAME THING IN THE WHOLE OF WEST INDIAN SOCIETY..BUREAUCRATIC FASCISM... AS THE WEST INDIAN ELITE..THE SONS AND DAUGHTERS OF INDENTURE AND SLAVERY, WORK HAND IN GLOVE WITH INTERNATIONAL FINANCE/MILITARY, TO ENSLAVE THE WEST INDIAN PEOPLE ONCE AGAIN

allyuh tink it sorf!  ask CLR James, Vidiah Naipaul, Sam Selvon, Lamming, Garvey, Sylvester Williams, George Padmore, J J Thomas etc.  they knew and told us all the way to here and now.  nobody listened then as now.  and here we are with the resulting and existing failure.

the answer is still the same. then and now.  but the consequence of not effecting the ansah is continual, descending failure, fading  to elimination as a people.

#8
Webster in la la Land    Wink

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