Well fuh the third tes'

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but find it bizarre suggesting Holder as opener
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funny you are comfortable judging Leon a middle order Bat as an Opener.

make up your mind !

don't worry the entire lot save Bravo and Gabe will be given walking papers yes even Bishoo

[quote author=ketchim link=topic=106746.msg717701#msg717701 date=1477423244]
not Fair ! Leon is NOT a bona fide opener.

Mail is biased re: Bravo playing outta his spot

BUT do not extend the same thinking to Leon, a middle order Batsman!
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And Holder is an opener?

My point is based on Bravo's value to the team and losing him, batting out of position, is a great loss to the team.

[quote author=ketchim link=topic=106746.msg717702#msg717702 date=1477423345]
funny you are comfortable judging Leon a middle order Bat as an Opener.

make up your mind !
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Mind made up, Leroy is atop order batsman and Holder is not, quite simple really.

However there is a valid point in batting out of position, Trott for example.

At International level, Leroy has either opened of batted at 3 with roughly the same results.

Batting out of position: is not for Trinis ONLY, dude.

get with the programme.

IF Leon has to do it then Bravo and Holder should as well !

[quote author=TRINIDADDY link=topic=106746.msg717698#msg717698 date=1477422783]
The opposite approach is the Aussie way: 2 cowlashers (Langer, Hayden, Warner etc) to open.
I like this too. Stick two cowlashers there and tell them to slog a 40-50 each.
Imagine Carlos and Holder opening.
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Love It !!  8)

[quote author=ketchim link=topic=106746.msg717708#msg717708 date=1477423771]
Batting out of position: is not for Trinis ONLY, dude.

get with the programme.

IF Leon has to do it then Bravo and Holder should as well !
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You miss the point.

Batting out of position is not ideal but Leroy has done so since he started his international career. It does not make it right or suitable but he should be better equipped than a tailender in Holder.

He only batted at 3 because Bravo was not around and you could argue that is not his position either. Also the fact is Bravo is well established at 3 so moving him is likely to destabilise the team even more and cost the team more.

Of Bravo's 87 test innings he has batted 48 at 3 and 35 at 4 and 1 opening.

If he was at the start of his career, given he bats 3 for Trinbago, putting him to open may make sense.

In my view risking your best batsman is dangerous and a risk worth evaluating.

What number does Leroy bat for the Guyanans?

[quote author=Mail link=topic=106746.msg717696#msg717696 date=1477422378]
Opening and batting at 3 are two different psychological challenges.

Bravo should resist doing this, in my view.

I take the point about bowling strength boosting confidence so that will not happen for a while, would it?

I am impressed with Joseph, why has he flown home?

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heres TD fuh ketchim..with yuh bad self.  what is his difference to this:

Quote:1)  Braithwaite
2) whoever...put Samules to open or drop him
3) Bravo
4) Hope
5) Blackwood
6) Chase
7) Dowrich
[img alt=8)]http://cricketwindies.com/Smileys/forum/cool-very.png[/img] Holder
9) Bish
10) Gabe
11) Cummins

[quote author=Mail link=topic=106746.msg717711#msg717711 date=1477424421]
What number does Leroy bat for the Guyanans?
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after all your negative judgements you now asking ?  :-\

nexx time try putting your Horse b4 the Cart  !

what # does Leon bat for the A team ?  :-\