Burkinis banned on Cannes beaches

Captain · 08-12-2016, 01:44 PM · 1 person reading this discussion

#31
The burkini might be a sad symbol of Islam going backwards in terms of gender issues, but the burkini ban is a sad sign of  liberalism going backwards in France . The controversial burkini ban is the product of political opportunism rather than secular idealism or strategic craftiness. The more an election approaches, the more short-sighted politics gets

#32
first of all i dont care for the burkini, but a woman should be able to wear what she is comfortable in wherever she is.


I am not supporter of women dressing half naked either.


but the recent news of the police demanding a woman be stripped of her clothing on the beach in public - was completely and utterly demeaning.  it was masochistic(sp) - i was really shocked that in a country where they preach freedom and equal rights - that those police officers did that.


it just goes to show that freedom is farce.

#33
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Try wearing a Bikini  in a Muslim country or eating a pork sandwich . Freedom is relative
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Those countries DO NOT advocate tolerace and acceptance and equality and FREEDOM (and that's their stupidity and backwardness)

Europe does
Canada, US does

except when it comes to Muslim women????????

#36
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it just goes to show that freedom is farce.
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[quote author=VillageBelle link=topic=105746.msg710900#msg710900 date=1472235020]
except when it comes to Muslim women????????
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whoa ! y'all in form !  8)

#37
[quote author=VillageBelle link=topic=105746.msg710900#msg710900 date=1472235020]
Those countries DO NOT advocate tolerace and acceptance and equality and FREEDOM (and that's their stupidity and backwardness)

Europe does
Canada, US does

except when it comes to Muslim women????????
[/quote] Well VB , let me be the devil's advocate here . We emigrated to these countries consciously ,. We had a choice .  In much the same way Muslim countries make laws  in the Islamic tradition ,  so also does the  countries in the West in their tradition.  This said,
I happen to disagree with this ban especially in a country that has has as it's motto .. Liberty , Equality and Fraternity but this speaks of a greater flaw in the concept of Democracy where the majorities rule .
Politicians cater to public opinion and when public opinion verges on open discrimination like the Burkini ban on beaches then politicians will accommodate .
There are also good news . This debate  also occurred during the recent Canadian    elections  when Harper tried to use a wedge issue like banning the Burka . He misread public opinion on the subject and his party was decimated

#38
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worl...rkini-ban/

France’s top administrative court overturns burkini ban
By James McAuley

August 26 at 1:12 PM  

  A French ban on the full-body bathing suits — and a court’s overturning of the ban — has drawn international attention and stirred debate about religious liberty.--

— After a month of intense national scandal and heightened international outrage, France’s highest administrative court, the Conseil d’État, on Friday overturned the burkini ban in a coastal area of the south of France.

Imposed in the name of secularism, perhaps France’s most sacred ideal, the highly controversial burkini bans — currently affecting 25 French towns and cities besides Villeneuve-Loubet, which the court primarily addressed — prohibit Muslim women from wearing full-bodied bathing suits designed to respect traditional codes of modesty on the beach.
But in its Friday ruling, the administrative court concluded that the idea of a burkini ban insulted “fundamental freedoms” such as the “freedom to come and go, the freedom of conscience and personal liberty.”

In recent weeks, a network of local mayors and officials across France passed similar bans on the Australian-born bathing suit, casting the burkini as the latest iteration of the burqa, the full-face veil that, in 2010, France became the first European country to ban outright. This 2010 law followed an earlier 2004 law prohibiting religious wear such as headscarves in public schools.
Their principal argument — similar to those employed by the authors and supporters of the previous laws — is that traditional Muslim dress somehow impedes the rights of women in the historic French Republic of liberty, equality and fraternity.

French Prime Minister Manuel Valls, for example, expressed his opposition to the burkini in nothing less than the language of human rights: the suit, he said, was a means of “enslavement.” By that logic, the French state is duty-bound to emancipate Muslim women not only from the clutches of their religion but also, by extension, from themselves.

For Christian Estrosi, an outspoken supporter of the burkini ban who runs the Provence-Alpes Côte d'Azur regional council, where a significant number of the bans were passed, Friday's decision was a contradiction of precisely those Republican values.









     

#39
It's strange that a ban has been made with modest clothing. Usually the ban is for revealing clothing!

#40
17emilyhalko , I believe that  you are a skunt  . That is a compliment

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