This Mook seem to think he has some kinda reputation here ::LOL::
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identity politics: (noun) a tendency for people of a particular religion, race, social background, etc., to form exclusive political alliances, moving away from traditional broad-based party politics.
"Identity politics is not an alternative to class politics; it is a class politics. It is the expression and active agency of a political order and moral economy in which capitalist market forces are treated as unassailable nature.
An integral element of that moral economy is displacement of the critique of the invidious outcomes produced by capitalist class power onto equally naturalized categories of ascriptive identity that sort us into groups supposedly defined by what we essentially are rather than what we do." - A. Reed (political scientist)
Manning was racist the same way Panday was racist the same way Trump is racist the same way Clinton is racist. They all - often whilst condemning racism and not saying anything explicitly racist - rely upon various forms of identity politics. They pit groups against groups and distract away from the workings of capitalism by deflecting blame onto others.
Trinidad is no different to any other 2 party country. Indian governments will blame African governments, African governments will blame Indian governments, coalition governments will form who will blame previous governments, coalition governments will fail and get blamed by successive governments. Then - as was the case in Greece recently, or as is the case in the global rise of Green parties - radical left wing governments will get increasing votes and even get into power, at which point they will also fail, or be crushed or get blamed and then replaced, often with a extreme right wing party. And then the process starts all over again. Over and over. Everyone blaming everyone. Because nothing fundamentally changes. Because the electoral system isn't designed to change anything, really.
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Panday played the same game and he is not called racist but Manning has been. that is ridiculous.
well very good contribution... but that is what I have been saying and or implying all along. I have been saying the same thing all the time..
and by way of TT politics Manning is not racist..I would not call him racist...I WUD NOT WOULD CALL ANY OF THEM RACIST. THEY ARE REALLY NOT RACIST AS FAR AS i CAN SEE
I pointed out that none of them are anything but beholden to forrin influence and cannot work in the interest of the people of TT..right up to Rowley here... after Kamla and Manning and Panday and Manning...
THE FORRIN INTEREST THEY ARE BEHOLDEN TO IS OBVIOUS. WE KNOW THEM TO BE INTERNATIONAL BANKERS AT THE TOP OF THE CORPORATE FOOD CHAIN IN CONTROL OF ALL OF WESTERN SOCIETIES
it never changes...can change only when the people rise up and change it. the pollies wont change it themselves. that is how they feed.
but capitalism has failed and its yet to catch up with us as it soon will when all economic hell breaks loose in these regions. then we will know how green pears and barley grow. the people will have to rise and change the system, revolutionize it...or face police state hell for an eternity.
but this is the way the discussion was supposed to develop. Triniddaddy cud have facilitated that by jumping in long time now and giving his two cents. I could not have said it the way he said it due to the way the debate developed. now that he has said it he has lifted the talk, its quality.
my contention is that Mail and Chin do not know what deh talking about. and even when I am wrong they cannot correct me. TD can... but does not try often. but it is the correction that gets us somewhere...
we have a class system in play. RACE is not the prime factor of social organization and movement in the west indies...anywhere at all.
CLASS! ALLYUH UNDERSTAND DAT...CLASS is the prime mover!.
AND THE POWERS IN THE SYSTEM WORK ASSIDUOUSLY TO KEEP PEOPLE THINKING RACE NOT CLASS... FOR BY THAT TACTIC WE ARE MISDIRECTED AND WILL NEVER UNDERSTAND WHATS GOING OR IF WE CONTINUE TO WORK FROM THE ANGLE OF RACE...
BY RACE...WE WILL NEVER SEE HOW WE ARE ALL GETTING BEAT AND WILL NEVER BE FOCUSED ACCURATELY, AND ABLE TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT OUR OWN EXPLOITATION
